You MMA fans seriously think they go toe to toe with boxers?

So I'm guessing all of the ancient warriors of Rome and Sparta and that whole era aren't warriors at all then? After all, they did all wrestle.

Boxing is punching, moving, countering, foot work, rhythm ect.

Wrestling is dominating and controlling your opponent.

Two different sports, neither of which are any less "warrior" than the other.

Wrestling is one of the most ancient forms of fighting, and its practicality is still shown today.

 

yep that was him people were shocked we didnt even know his dad an brother were boxers either. or he won the gold gloves, he seemd like he may have been pretty good

 

two different sports. I see what you are saying though. I've not been impressed by the overall quality of standup in MMA. Only BJ Penn's has impressed me. Anderson Silva has some crisp striking, but he's already boxed and not faired too well. You think these guys would've learned to move their head more and how to duck and weave with 4-6oz gloved fists flying at their heads

 

anderson boxed like 8 years ago, his standup has improved exponentially since then, and all that ducking and weaving shoulder roll stuff doesn't really work in MMA, you do that and you'll get your head kicked into the 6th row.

 

Why are guys so stuck on calling MMA and Boxing "different" martial arts? They are not. That is like saying "fried chicken" (specific) and "buffet" (anything that is edible) are different. No crap! It makes no damned sense! MMA is NOT a martial art!!!! atsch

Boxing is boxing. It is a specific sport with a specific rule set. MMA is a rule set that encompasses ANY number of combat techniques (sports and formal/informal martial arts) that can be modified to fit within the rule set. It can be BJJ, Judo, Boxing, Muai Thai, Kenpo, wrestling, etc... i.e., made non lethal.

The problem with ANY fighting style verses another is LOOKS. If you have never seen it or your training doesn't approximate something close enough to it for a fighter to deal? You will be screwed.

Unless a boxer practices in an MMA environment he is screwed. Unless an MMA fighter practices boxing he is disadvantaged, but fine. Why? He has seen EVERY look that the boxer has to offer. When the dukes go up he has a specific game plan to neutralize it. "Oh his hands went up and his stance isn't square? Maybe he can box? I will shoot on this fool." Fight over. If the boxer practices under the MMA rule set he should be fine unless his trainers are complete morons.

MMA is NOT a martial art it is a RULE SET! Boxing is a SPORT not a martial art! :deal

 

Proving once again boxing fans do not know **** about MMA! They wouldn't stand and trade with them.

 

Boxers used to wear 4oz glove's and go 15 - 25 rounds, Benny Lynch, Harry Greb, Sam Langford, etc, etc

 

In MMA it is best that you donot duck. The best defence is moving aw3ay from the power side since mma striking is more power striking

 

Damn, why isn't dwight howard playing goalie? I mean...either way he is like defending the basket right?

This argument is stupid.

 

That's beside the point. My point was that there are a lot of boxers who would get knocked the **** out with 4oz gloves. Some people seem to think that the glass chin is an MMA disease, and that all MMA fighters have glass chins.

 

well its not, in your point you said that the reason why boxers can take a punch better is because there wearing 8oz gloves, so I just said that boxers used to wear 4oz and I'm very certain even 3oz gloves and would routinely go 15 - 25 rounds.

 

I pretty much agreed until the last line. Boxing was invented as a scientific approach for gentlemen to defend themselves from staffs, clubs, etc. Thus it is a martial art - its prime reason for being is defending yourself.

 

Actually, by definition it's not. Boxing is a sport. Martial Arts and their purpose are completely different. Martial Arts are fighting styles that were/are used in war. I don't know any state/country/empire that employed boxing as their premier combat tactic. Boxing is good for it's punching technique and it works well when in extremely limited combat. But, for practical purposes it's not even close to being the most effective. (Note that I didn't say ineffective, just not as effective as many, many other styles of defense or martial arts).

 

James,

I disagree. Please read above - boxing was invented and practiced prior to the establishment of any formal ring or rules thus it is a martial art.

Effectiveness has nothing to with categorising it as a sport or as self defence.

 

I know they used to, but what does that have to do with anything? There was also a lot of boxers who got knocked the **** out in the early rounds. That point is irrelevant, and of course added padding makes it harder to knock somebody out.

My point was to the thread starter saying: