Funny isn't it how people think oh I would just jumping flying somersault kick this ****er in the head, but when you got someone coming in on you with elbows and knees then shooting in on you it's not so easy
NAH **** THAT. I would do a SUPERMAN KICK, and then cuz I'm scared to get hit, WRESTLE AS soon as possible.
Chuck Liddell Dominated the LHW division before he got too old, by KOing people with people with wide, slow, punches, so don't tell that me that a more athletic boxer couldn't do the same.
YEP. WE SHOOT in cuz WE SCARED TO GET HIT!!! TELL HIM how it is. **** THAT ****. See I fight MMA for REAL. I been in a boxing match, was gettin sparked up, and I was like **** gettin my ass beat like a man, I'm gonna hold on TIGHT like a SCARED *****. I'm Holdin on so long, I get disqualified. But I'm thinkin, IN THE CAGE, I woulda had you. Cuz "fightin" like this is FOR REAL. I'm WITH YOU.
What's that got to do with anything? Boxers are more specific so they are obviously going to have at least one skill that is greater than the vast majority of other people. By extension of that argument, what if I invent a sport called left-armed boxing with rules otherwise identical to boxing? When my new sport has 100+ years of history behind it would be fair to say that the world class left-armed boxers are going to have more chance of suceeding in boxing than a boxer in left-armed only boxing. It's a stupid argument, it doesn't prove anything, just because one sport is more specialised than another does not make it better. This logic does not prove that combatants in one armed boxing are better than normal boxers, likewise it does not prove that combatants limited to only punching are better than those that can also kick, it does not prove that kickboxers are better than those who practice MMA. It's all combat sport. It's all about one man imposing his will on another. Forget your own frame of reference and what you think is honourable, other people have different view points.
Are you kidding me? Your telling me that explosive athletes like Mayweather, Pacquiao, Berto, Haye wouldn't have take down defense? Please..... There reflexes and athleticism are much higher than that of beer belly Liddell. Hell, all he really had was a sprawl, and in my opinion that comes naturally. I've seen plenty of guys who've never trained a day in MMA or any sort of grappling use it when someone tried to take them down. Hell I've used it myself.
NO, YOU DON'T GET IT. You got to be THE BEST ATHLETE FOR MMA. I get it, yes I can't play any other spots, yes I'm fat as hell, and yes I'm not AGILE. But I can FIGHT. You see, I GRAB ON TIGHT and TRY TO PUMMEL YOU N **** with my weight and rub up all on you and ****. That's how you FIGHT. You think throwin punches like a man is real fightin? NAH, you gotta get all up in a mother ****ers ass.
It is blatantly clear that the best athletes in one combat sport are going to have a reasonable chance in another fairly similar combat sport. Boxing has 100+ years of history, much of which has had in depth amateur programs supplying the pro ranks, much media coverage and years and years of fights on film to develop techniques. MMA is essentially about 15 years old, has no amateur system, has only recently started receiving television coverage (compared to boxing which has 70+ years of fights on film), it's a baby in comparison. The talent pool of people who have trained in MMA from an early age is tiny compared to the number of people who box. The best in MMA now will be nowhere near as good as the best in MMA in 100 years time. The comparisons between boxing and MMA are simply pointless given the relative maturity in the two sports. I should clarify, while individual aspects of MMA (wrestling, boxing, BJJ) may have amateur backgrounds, there is next to nothing that considers all the aspects rolled into one for people wishing to learn MMA. I have seen some clubs appearing that advertise as MMA clubs, but to think that those have only appeared in the last few years I don't see how anyone can blame the sport for not being as refined as boxing.
You can get your ***** all in a bunch, and call me names all you want, but it doesn't change the fact, that pot a belly loser like Liddell with very little skill and athleticism, was winning MMA fights with sloppy punches. Then when started losing to people like Ramapge, and Evans who also knocked him out with sloppy punches. Then Evans got KOed by Machida with sloppy punches. Then Machida got KOed by Rua with sloppy punches. But I guess a boxer couldn't do any of that though.
No, they are great Judo amateurs, or great BJJ amateurs, not great MMA amateurs. Judo/BJJ do not look at the bigger picture like MMA does, so you have to relearn things, learn to apply what you do know in a different way and most importantly fill in the gaps in your game (striking most specifically). This is exactly the same as saying that a great amateur boxer is a great amateur in MMA. It's simply not the case, they are all great at one aspect of MMA - but they are not yet mixed martial artists. My argument is that it is not about useful amateur background, it is about ideal/perfectly suited background. For example an amateur system for MMA could mean being included in the olympics and everything that builds up to it. MMA as a whole just does not have the foundations that the individual sports have just yet.
In order to know how effective a "boxing stance" is don't you actually gotta be proficient in it? Why don't you post a video of you in your "boxing stance". Cuz if you can't do it properly, then honestly, what the **** do you know about it?
LOL, I see your getting pretyy pissed off because MMA is a respectable sport, but its inferior. MMA guys can't strike for s***. Most of them are slow and have no reflexes what so whatsoever. Boxers would own MMA guys the majority of the time.
