New pound for pound top 25

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by The Phenom, May 23, 2010.


  1. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    Adamek top 15 P4P today
    Tarver x 2 top 3 LHW when they fought
    Glen Johnson x 2 top 5 LHW then, top 3 LHW today

    undefeated and potential to get the SMW, CW and HW belts in the future

    that's enough for me to rank him #4
     
  2. Wiesiek

    Wiesiek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fine list. I dont know how some1 could put amir khan so high like the ts, he doesnt belong in the p4p discussion yet.

    Also adamek is top 10 for me , if some1 hasnt got him in top 15 or Wladimir in top 10 it means he doesnt know **** about boxing. ppl usually replace them with somebody like Calderon , caballero , donaire, guys that are either inactive, or hasnt beaten anybody in years, thats really not understandable
     
  3. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Why are people still putting Hopkins in their P4P lists?

    He was P4P - he aint anymore.
     
  4. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    But Katsidis, Dirrell, Gamboa and Maidana do?
     
  5. Wiesiek

    Wiesiek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Na they dont. Maybe direll... but he shouldnt be top 15 either....

    I just see a tendention of putting unproven at high level prospects very high on the p4p lists which is very stupid in my view. They re promising, spectacular , hyped etc, OK. Lets keep an eye on them but dont put em already above guys who re really tested, proven and beat very good competition.

    Their time will come, what is the rush?
     
  6. gurmon

    gurmon Active Member Full Member

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    I would have Darchinyan in the top 25 P4P list. Somewhere around 17 - 18
     
  7. Fighting Pride

    Fighting Pride Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac and Floyd are clearly 1 and 2.
    The rest might aswell be a lottery as no-one has really put their hand up, while the proven guys have faded and suffered bad losses.
    That's why I have to put the Klits top 5 and reward them for their consistency and excellence.
    Adamek and Martinez have stormed into the top 10 with recent performances and are probably the only guys challenging themselves, and maybe Haye (my opinion will change drastically if he fights Fraudley next)

    Pac
    Floyd
    Wlad
    Vitali
    JMM
    Donaire
    Williams
    Dawson
    Adamek
    Martinez
    Hopkins
    Mosley
    Haye
    Cotto
    Calderon
     
  8. chris41

    chris41 most skilled fighter(esb) Full Member

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    1 Floyd Mayweather
    2 Manny pacquiao
    3 Paul williams
    4 Chad dawson
    5 Juan Manuel Marquez
    6 Bernard Hopkins
    7 Wladimir Klitschko
    8 Nonito Donaire
    9 Rafael Marquez
    10 Shane Mosley
    11 Sergio Martinez
    12 Pongsaklek Wonjonkam
    13 Vitali Klitschko
    14 Celestino Caballero
    15 Miguel Cotto
    16 Fernando Montiel
    17 Ivan Calderon
    18 Juan Manuel Lopez
    19 Andre Ward
    20 Timothy Bradley
    21 Amir Khan
    22 David Haye
    23 Tomasz Adamek
    24 Chris John
    25 Lucian Bute
    25 Mikkel Kessler
     
  9. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Some people just cannt let go.
     
  10. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    Khan above Haye? Are you ****ing kidding?
     
  11. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    I think that you just don't know how good Glen Johnson is and how good Antonio Tarver was. And there is Adamek...

    Being undefeated and having an ocean of potential is just bonus/secondary issue. I rate Dawson highly because of his wins over very good competition first.

    What is your top 5?
     
  12. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    Amir Khan - lost by 1st round KO by Maidana. Beat small and old Barrera, declining Malignaggi. His best win is over Kotelnik who is a decent boxer but not great. I don't think that this is 25 material. Great talent but great hype also.

    Katsidis is giving us entertainment for years. He lost 2 times in wars with Casamayor and Juan Diaz. In both fights he showed heart and skills and was close of winning. After that he came back with wins with Escobedo, Jesus Chavez and talented Kevin Mitchell. That is top 25-30 material for me.

    Dirrell was robbed against Froch, and no one will convince me that Carl won that fight. Punch stats from that fight are joke. Dirrell outboxed considered top 15 p4p Arthur Abraham lately. I know that this kid is irretating, but you cannot dismiss his boxing skills and talent.

    Gamboa is right now on the same level with Khan basing on resume. Maybe edging the Brit.

    Maidana is also higher than Khan in my opinion. He should get the nod against Kotelnik. He beat promising Victor Ortiz who recently beat the shadow of Nate Campbell. Maidana's last win over Cayo is also quite valuable.
     
  13. LocoRoco

    LocoRoco ★★★★★ Full Member

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    :blood
     
  14. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    Prescott of course :)
     
  15. dannylatics

    dannylatics Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No way do you deserve to win a fight by going to the champions home town and running for 10 of the 12 rounds. The only time stood there and threw punches were in rounds 10-12 when he realised he had to do more.

    He was a coward that night. I respect his performance vs Abraham were he boxed superbly but he was a coward vs Froch. You don't win a fight or a title in some ones back yard by running all fight and boring the **** out of every one