Kassim Ouma fighting tonight.

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Something tells me Kassim is not his top priority at the moment.
     
  2. tragicliston

    tragicliston Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah, I'd agree. The very best Roman could've gotten was 5-5, if there was no KD. This maybe wasn't an outright robbery, but at least grand larceny.
     
  3. tragicliston

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    Seein' how he had him fighting on Telefutura and that nobody knew about the fight before a couple hours before, I'd have to agree with you. And there were, what, maybe 100 people in the audience? Maybe. What pisses me off, is everybody will see the result, but won't have seen the fight and they'll take the outcome as legit.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    To be fair though, while he should have won, he did not look world class. Roman made it ugly but Kassim did nothing to beautify it. The lack of regard this loss will bring Ouma is deserved not because of the result but because of his lackluster performance.
     
  5. tragicliston

    tragicliston Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed.
     
  6. valdosta

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    Roman won fair and square with clean,effective and hard punching. Ouma almost got bailed out in round 8 but not quite.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Explain? :huh
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That depends. Official decision or general audience consensus?
     
  9. valdosta

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    Explain what? You can read can't you? Ouma lost that fight fair and square. He looked awfull and was getting hit by a ridiculous amount of clean hard shots. Those were the punches that got more credit than Ouma's BS punches . I had Roman winning by a point myself.
     
  10. valdosta

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    Saul Roman won fair and square.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I meant the last sentence, about the bail-out. What did you mean by that?

    And to be honest I was even pulling for Roman after the first couple of rounds. Ouma's lack of commitment really shined through tonight, he did not look prepared to go 10 rounds with a live underdog and he deserved a rough fight because of that (if not even a career-damaging loss). And I certainly don't score all of Ouma's palm caresses as landed punches. However, you need to score objectively, and on a round-by-round basis. Ouma won five if not six rounds by controlling them and neutralizing Roman's height and reach. If the ref ruled a knockdown, you have to abide the official's decision and factor it into your score. Mathematically it is very hard to give Roman the win.
     
  12. valdosta

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    Oh just that the KD wasn't legit. I am sure you agree. That did make a big difference in the scoring and almost bailed ouma out.
     
  13. Zakman

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    Wow. Ouma lost?? To this guy?? He just got stopped by some nobody. This is a serious upset.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

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    If Ouma had won a razor-thin single-point decision because of that ruling, the Roman camp would have legitimate gripe. It didn't come to that, so moot point. The fact is that if you invert the score range that Roman got, that more accurately reflects how many rounds Ouma won. Did Roman land the better shots throughout the fight? Yes. If you scored fights based on their overall ebb and flow, would things work out a lot differently? Yes. On a ten-point must system scoring round by round and then adding them up, did Roman win? I just can't see it...
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Whether he "lost" or not is debatable. It was a very closely contested, ugly fight and he looked bad. Lethargic, vulnerable, wide and sloppy, you name it...amazing to think the same guy was considered a justifiable challenger for the middleweight title within the last year.