Why for the most part are Heavyweights garbage boxers?

Solis has some skills under his blubber.

 

That's not really true. Wlad has a devastating jab, a devastating left hook and an equally devastating right hand. Having a world class jab and one punch KO power in both hands is versatile enough.

I think people get carried away with the... skillfulness. These are HWs, the movement/skill factor is replaced in considerable parts with brute strength and resistance. There are boxers, like Estrada, thing is, that's not going to win you titles. Look at the likes of Foreman, Lewis Lennox, Earnie Shavers... are those good skillful boxers? Hardly.

 

If they're garbage boxers, why seperate the Heavyweights from the lower weights?

Because the Heavyweights would kill them :yep Why else? :huh :bbb :smoke

 

It's never easy when you're 6'7". These guys are huge. And Mayweather, with all those body shots, never looked like... finishing Marquez. While with Wlad, you always know that one big punch and it's over.

You can't compare HWs to guys from other weights. HWs will always come at a disadvantage. As they can't have the flexability or the mobility to match those lighter weights, though both Haye and Wlad have plenty of mobility. And they don't have to follow the same... patterns lighter weights follow. Because such patterns might not work.

Plus again, Sony Liston, Foreman, Lewis. None of those ready had... great boxing skills. But at HW, there are other factor, as important if not more. Plus... keep in mind, Wlad is an olympic gold medalist. Haye is an olympian. They are very good overall boxers. Sure, they'll look bad compared to lighter guys. But put Floyd on the same ring with any of them, and he'd get his head chopped off along with his shoulder (as he'll have done the shoulder roll).

I agree, there may be a lack of skill (though... we had Gomez, Adamek, Haye moving up, those are good boxers). But it isn't the lack of skill making HW bad, it's the overall lack of everything. The overall value of most HWs is just not great. That said, I'd wager Vitali could put up a good fight against any boxer in history.

 

IDK..maybe most are too big to actually BOX so we usually see a slugfest till they gas. I'm not saying this is how it always is but your question is why are they garbage boxers, I think the answer is because most of them are punchers.

 

I don't remember Tooney beating anyone of credit. The great boxer that is Tooney managed to lose decisions to Sam Peter. Sam Peter is a guy who'll generally lose to HW boxers. But notice, I said HW boxers, not boxers. With HWs come aspects like size, strength and reach. Those are very important. Plus the less of a deficiencies of being a HW you have the better. But deficiencies will still be.

 

When did Toney beat a Heavyweight when he was a middle weight?

I think when Toney fought HW's he was a HW too. And what's his record against Heavyweights again?

Your Joe Louis theory is only speculation on your part but not a fact.

Please tell us why they seperate Heavyweights from smaller weights?
BTW: I'm all for eliminating all the weight classes :good

 

one of the thing that always pisses me off is the lack of fights between the top 10-15 contenders in the division.

how many of these guys these days just look for the path of least resistance to a title shot? none of them have honed their skills on a steady upward curve in comp.

they go from chazz witherspoon and an ancient bruce seldon to vitali and wlad and people wonder why they look so clueless in there.

people are too keen to protect that 0 and then cash in on a title shot as soon as it presents itself.

 

Povetkin who was Olympic champion, World champion, 2X European champion, doesn't know how to box? :nut
Chambers also has good boxing skills.

 

I heard Chris Byrd's dad say he never saw his son take a worse beating then he did from Povetkin. :bbb

So if Povetkin can't bob and weave stick and move and he has such terrible skills why seperate him from the lower weights?
Do you think there's a reason they do that? :huh