Foremen Strength

Wrong way round mate...Punchers are made not born..

 

Wait so lifting weights is good for boxing?? :huh Why does everyone say never touch weights then? is it more light weighs or heavy weights?

 

heavy weights. only idiots say dont lift weights for MAs

 

i take that but longer arms taller size wider frame help. if you look at foreman he has got huge back muscles which most other boxers of the time didnt train

 

well they are good for punching but bad for boxing you dont want that type of muscle.it will make you hit hard but the problem with wieghtlifting punchers they tire easily and usually havnt go the speed ,agilty or stamina.

but wieghts are useful and shouldnt be looked down upon as people do. it's like skipping rope all the time you will have great footwork but almost no defence or punching ability.

anyway you can always learn techniques to hit harder and not go up 2 divisions

 

well what causes force is speed x mass = force

so even thoughsome saying you have to be bigger you also have to be faster...which defyes the physics...look at a foreman jab and it would crack your skull open. then look at any other jabber it doesnt have the same wieght behind it...i personally feel that wieght doesnt have anything behind it but mass which is a totally different thing. mass is the density of objects wieght is purely a human invention.

so what we need is a good combonation of muscles. back muscles for taunting the arm and the pec's to do the opposite and to drag the arm the back relaeses and a punch is invented

 

The old school trainers preached to never lift weights, it would make you tight. In fact many pointed out that in the film Rocky was shown lifting which was a red flag. That way of thinking was laid by the wayside with Evander's new approach to training with weights. With time the legs go and the skin bleeds easier but a true puncher still carries a punch. Foreman regaining the title is evidence of this. 82 years old Jack Dempsey was hailing a cab when approached by two would be muggers. He knocked them both out.

 

yah i heard about that lol. BTW how does your back help with a punch. i always wonderd that? pulling it back faster?

 

foreman might have had natural power, but he did train it, he used to pull trucks, chop down trees, hit a tyre with a bat and loads of other strength training.

 

This **** gets to me.. Relentless just out of curiosity, do you think if we propose a competitive training forum we could keep the new out until they learn? Im sick of coming on here to learn and getting drawn into bull****..

 

Relentless, where do you have this info from?

Btw, does someone know where to find something about Foreman's training routine (generally spoken)?

 

There are videos on YouTube of Foreman training (during his comeback) by doing things like dragging sleds and hitting tires with sledgehammers.

 

Some of these posts are absolute bull****. If you take 2 boxers, exactly the same strength, speed, agility etc and trained them exactly the same but got one doing extra strength training with weights, which do you think will hit harder? I'm guessing the one doing strength training.

It all comes down to the individual and the way they train.

 

legendary nights foreman vs moorer

i was surprised to see foreman doing so much bicep curls:huh

 

I'm sorry, but anyone disagreeing with the fact that someone who lifts and someone who doesn't has no effect on punching power is wrong. This is proven with me and a friend. My friend is skinny, doesn't lift, and doesn't hit as hard as me. Infact, I know how to punch so lets use my other friend. He doesn't know the correct way to throw a cross. Yet he lightly lifts, and my other friend, the skinny one, doesn't either. Yet my friend who lifts hits harder. Either coincidence or lifting does help somewhat. Of course, form does come first.