Ward-Dirrell September 25th

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  1. Shane W

    Shane W Former Heavyweight Full Member

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    With an uppercut. Dirrell always seems to be sold a bit short.........could be he shuts folks up with a win over Ward.
     
  2. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Alright Johna

    Carl didn't beat Dirrell..Dirrell beat himself. Ward will know that he can do exactly what Dirrell did but be more active and aggressive.
    Ward has the mental strength to deal with Froch's late onslaughts and his roughhousing. He would beat Froch at range if Froch wanted to take it there and make it a battle of wits and skills (Dre would just feint and mix up from countering to leading..to easy).

    If he wanted to fight upclose i think he's be brutally exposed by Wards pocket game. Ward uses some sweet tricks and he so compact in there as well. He not afraid to be there and picks his shots well. Froch would be best to not try rough him up if fighting in America because he only make the losing margin wider imo.

    What people haven't spoke about is Ward's ability to box at different rhythms and we know Froch is a rhythm fighter. He likes to get into a mode and it's seek and destroy. Ward changes it up every round. Mayweather once said to Smitty on secondsout. ''i change my rhythm up each round'' Andre does same thing. He take Carl out of his rhythm and go back to work.

    Wards mental toughness and stamina would take him through to final bell, Carl's best chance is to back up Ward. I'm not fully convinced he's that good off the back foot. He gets trapped and static in corner a few times..he doesn't seem all at ease there. If Carl could stalk him early and get behind his good jab then he have his best chance. But that's pushing it.

    I will say this though...Carl isn't as easy as he seems on tape, Ward will have his rough patches i'm sure. Froch's bravery does have it's merits. He will find you at some point...that's why i got huge respect for him.
     
  3. Sugar Rob

    Sugar Rob Member Full Member

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    Definitely the toughest fight to call of the next round fights. I'm still not entirely convinced by Ward. Are his two victories in the tournament against an out-of-sorts Kessler and an over-matched Green, or has he cleverly and successfully nullified the differing threats of each? Dirrell on the other hand is underrated in my opinion - very quick, and a punch that's a lot heavier than he's given credit for. Of course there's the question of whether Dirrell's got the attitude/fighter's instinct, but for me, in the (admittedly) few fights I've seen of both - Dirrell looks the better boxer.
     
  4. WeBLBoxing

    WeBLBoxing WeBL Fanboy Full Member

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    I've gone for Dirrell. Quite surprised by how close the poll is. I thought you were all on Ward's nuts. I was obviously wrong.
     
  5. joegrundy

    joegrundy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Picked ward on points, should be a good close fight
     
  6. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    From what i've heard these two camps are really, really close. Ward's trainer was giving Dirrell instructions in the Abraham fight and the two Andre's interact like the Klits, you'd think they were brothers.

    Anybody think this might have an impact on the fight? could Ward ease up on Dirrell knowing his mate needs a win to go through?

    It'd be interesting to see if their close relationship effects the intensity of the bout....can't think of too many 'wars' between fighters that were this close, must be really difficult to fight a really close mate, although it didn't matter to Simon Brown and Maurice Blocker. lol
     
  7. TonyD407

    TonyD407 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    dirrell could steal it .......

    straight / rangey punches only
    on the back foot constantly
    spoil or run when ward tries to get off
    pot shot all night

    dunno how that ko affected them tho
     
  8. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Expect this to be a stinker.

    Ward is just more savvy than Dirrell, he'll squeak enough rounds to win, Dirrell will wail that he's been robbed, half of ESB will agree with him and say that they scored it 10-2 Dirrell solely on the basis of a flashy combination that Dirrell threw in the 11th....
     
  9. Flea Man

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    Ward is a professional and will do a job on Dirrell regardless of friendship.

    I f'n hope so anyway, Dirrells a nobber.
     
  10. Bad Dog

    Bad Dog Boxing Addict banned

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    I can see Dirrell taking a clear UD. That man's talent is incredible.
     
  11. TheUzi

    TheUzi MISSION INCOMPLETE Full Member

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    Ward for me in what will be a chess like bout to start with,and Ward finishing off strongly.

    As far as a spectacle goes,cant see it being a great fight at all. I was far more intrigued by Abraham/Dirrel because of the clash of styles.
     
  12. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Apparently this fight is in jeopardy because these two are too pally to fight eachother.

    I told you all their close relationship may effect this fight. My problem is why would you enter a tourney like this knowing you'll have to fight eachother? now they've gone and messed the whole thing up.
     
  13. Freakzilla

    Freakzilla Yooo fookin' Rat Full Member

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    If this fight goes to the score cards it will be a draw :deal

    3 points puts Dirrell through in every scenario i can think of.
    If Abraham beats Froch, Dirrell would be above Froch (2points)
    If Froch beats Abraham, Dirrell would go through instead of Abraham because he beat him.

    Even if Green KO's Kessler and gets 3 points he would have won less rounds on the tie break system so Direll would still go through.

    Plus a draw between Ward and Dirrell would allow a massive all-American showdown after the Super Six finishes
     
  14. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Is this still on for the 25th? Saw showtime advertising it the other night, but i was under the impression they hadn't even agreed on a vanue and it was to be delayed if not called off. :?
     
  15. johna_83

    johna_83 31/10/2010 Full Member

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    it can't possibly be on. no venue, no promotion, no tickets sold, neither fighter apparently in camp. i'm very surprised they still advertised it the other night