What's it gonna take to beat Mayweather?

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  1. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    I created floyd on fight night round 4 and I beat him up with nate campbell and a created version of borat.
     
  2. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A high work rate is just one of a number of things that would be required to form an overall approach. It is not the single definitive answer to what it's going to take to beat him. Without speed and accuracy, a high work-rate is just wasted effort.
     
  3. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Floyd has learned from the Castillo fight and he showed you this in the rematch. Against Dlh, Dlh pretty much had everything in his corner to win, and lost. It will take a smw to beat him. Nobody under 160 can stand in front of Floyd for the full 12...lol.
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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  5. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right, this is what I'm saying. I know it will take more, more often then not though the answer people have for beating Floyd is "high work rate". That's a good way to get picked apart imo.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    People all think high pressure is the way to beat PBF and they couldn't be more wrong. PBF is a natural counter-puncher and he wants high pressure that helps him get more chances to counter you're playing into his hands. Educated pressure behind a jab the ability to cut off the ring and get to the body is way more effective than just a high work rate with no real plan behind it that type of pressure will be ineffective against a ring general like PBF.
     
  7. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right....pressuring Floyd without a game plan is a grave mistake. You gotta have good footwork and good Jab will help and being able to stay consistant with intelligent pressure.

    Most don't have all those qualities to give Floyd any problems. You need a "Bag of tricks" to compete with Floyd and if you are a one trick pony you are getting schooled.

    It's not an easy feat to beat a skilled practitioner like Floyd. Floyd is so cool, calm and composed even under fire that he's hard to take out of his zone. But Floyd hasn't had the kind of pressure and equal ability that would cause him to lose except when he faced guys like a prime JLC, DLH and Shane. And in those fights they didn't have the COLLECTIVE elements necessary to beat Floyd. DLH did but wasn't consistant with the jab and began pressuring without any intelligence.
     
  8. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed. It would be futile if all you were doing is standing in front of Mayweather, beating the hell out of his gloves, arms and elbows all night. Mayweather's sharp-shooting efficiency feeds off this type of effort.

    That said, it is possible to achieve a high work-rate with multiple bursts of assault, over the course of the bout. Moreover, if the assaults can be varied (e.g. angle of approach, head-to-body, body-to-head attack), then they are likely to be more effective - over the course of the bout.
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I couldn't agree more spot on.:good
     
  10. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How many punches thrown do you consider to be a "high work-rate"?
     
  11. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In context with the T.S's question, anything above the divisional average.
     
  12. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    I go with Martinez out of all the current guys that it would be reasonable for Void to fight. The joyboys know he would bring the best out of Void, so the majority of them rather see Void/Mart than the hype machine of Void/emmanuel.
     
  13. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok. That's probably around 700 punches which I don't think will cut it.
     
  14. RARE

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    so u think paul williams can beat floyd but carlos quitana beat paul williams and berto just stopped quintana so are u tryin to say quintana is a better counter puncher than floyd or even in the same class as floyd at anything u must be on drugs:rasta
     
  15. Jay Cutler

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    Somebody much bigger IMO or someone with a Hears like style, like someone else mentioned earlier. TBH I don't see him losing until he is in the territory of trying to bite off more than he can chew by fighting Middleweight sized opponents.