In boxing we have the Queensbury rules which limits what you can do in the ring. By virtue of the rules muscle strength does not become an issue because there are very few situations where you can effectively use it. Weight lifting will increase muscle strength, but it is a waste of time. The world's strongest man will never have an advantage over the world's best boxer unless the referee does not enforce the rules. Oscar De La Hoya was obviously stronger than Floyd Mayweather but it didn't do him a bit of good. Any boxer will get as strong as he needs to be by using the same training methods that Jack Dempsey and Gene Tunney used.
The stronger fighter losing the fight doesn't mean that "strength is useless". For the opposite end of the spectrum, look at Frazier-Foreman I. That's what muscular strength can do for you.
Foreman in the early seventies did not lift weights. Old school training all the way. Weights do not improve punching power. Leverage, timing, speed, proper technique, and god given X factors result in KO power.
Im so sick of this arguement... Its pointless and non conclusive. People say that weights improve a boxers speed reflexes and power... Please can someone give me documented proof where a boxer went from doing no weights in training to doing weights in training and absolutely dominating the division thereafter?? Its inconclusive cos these boxers are successful at te time b4 and time after. It is not detrimental nor is it important.
we have went over this like 20 on this thread alone, weights do not make you a better boxer, weights are just tools, just like the medicine ball is a tool.
thats not the point, the point is foreman had tremendous strength, you dont have to lift weights to gain strength, lifting weights is only one of the many ways of strength training.
What about Shavers-Foreman? Oh, it didn't happen! Why? Because Foreman ducked Shavers, and muscular strength had nothing to do with it.
great job on not using your brain while typing this post. Exactly how did you type to well with your ass? When did anyone say that weight-lifting alone would help you in the ring? Of course Pudzianowski wouldn't beat de la hoya in the ring....because he hasn't been boxing his whole life. floyd mayweather was more skillful than de la hoya, that's what the main difference was. Nobody with a lick of intelligence EVER said to neglect your skills training. Why the hell do so many people fight progression so adamantly?
That's cause boxers are getting lazier and politics are killing the sport. Not to mention lots of would be boxers are now in other careers.
Right. That doesnt improve boxing skill tho, the things which make a boxer. I asked for someone who started lifting weights and now has a great advantage over the rest.