Haye told us he was going to clean up the heavyweight division. He had a lot of hype coming up from Cruiserweight. After he demolished Enzo Macceranelli he was proclaimed by many as the saviour of the Heavyweight division. Haye never said this himself but he relished those words and told all that would listen he would knock out the all the bums at Heavyweight. The main target for the abuse were the Klitscko borthers. He built up a high profile with the severed head t shirts and the name calling. He got the win over Monte Barret which was impressive and we were thinking finally an exciting heavyweight, with charisma that can challenge these big guys. The 2 Klitscko fights fell throught. Whether you beleive the injury or not, or of you think Haye was right to take more money for a Valuev fight, its still a fact that Haye pulled out of 2 fights with the borthers. Both Vitali and Wladamir clearly want the fight. Since those fights fell through Haye has picked up the other title. Few were impressed with his performance agaisnt Valuev and Ruiz, two guys seen as the most boring Heavyweight champions in history. So its 2 years since Haye officially vacated his cruiserweight titles and where are we? Negotiations for another fight with the Klitsckos have not gone anywhere. Haye appares to be further away than ever to a fight with even of the Klitsckos and achieving his goal of unifying the titles. and to go with it his reputation among boxing fans is in tatters. Its been a PR disaster for him. The Klitsckos have made videos calling Haye out, set public deadlines and told the press that a 50-50 offer has been made. They have been very vocal in the last 3 months. Haye and his team have been uncharacteristically quiet. Because of this lots of rumours started including one regarding a potential fight with Audley Harrison. Instead of imedialtley putting out this story, Booth added fuel to the fire buy saying they would speak to Harrisons team. The only interview with David Haye in the last 3 months has been the Derby Telegraph. The 50-50 has been denied, but not directly by Hayes team. He laughed of the Harrison fight but it was not reported by the wider press. 2 years ago Hayes reputation among boxing fans was "he has a loud mouth but he is exceiting, lets hope he backs it up". Now its "Haye is a *****, he is ducking the Klitsckos and is probably going to fight Audley Harrison" You can say that the general forum posters on here are morons, and i agree. But they sum up what the majority of hardcore boxing fans are thinking. Haye may be a multi millionaire and a celebrity, but among boxing fans the opinion of him is at its lowest.
If Haye didn't make T-shirts with their heads on them and confront them saying why don't you fight me then it wouldn't be a problem who he fights. But calling out people and then not responding to numerous offers is a ***** move but business talks so I don't really mind who he fights although in critics eyes, he'll be regarded as a ducker.
I think that's a rather flattering assessment - Haye's always attracted crazy hate around here, but I agree otherwise. He's not done himself any favours unless he comes out with some amazing news soon.
he says he will retire at 31 if, by then, he hasnt fought Wlad or Vitali, then we should start shouting about him ruining his reputation, as of yet, we should wait before passing judgement on a final note, if the K's really are trying for an 80-20 in their favour then i wouldnt blame Haye for turning it down
All this chat means nothing until Haye signs his next fight...It is incredibly annoying and frustrating but we dont know who he is going to fight. It could still be Vitali, or it could be Adamek....both would be fine as fights. Anything other would be incredibly disappointing and his reputation would be beyond repair....even as a big Haye fan I'm pretty sick of this ****.
Agreed. But just becuase you do not have a fight lined doesn't mean you cannot let your fans know whats going on. Why the hell would a Heavyweight title holders only interview in the last 3 months be with the ****ing Derby Telegraph, especially when national newspapers, the biggest sports channel in the UK and US Boxing websites are running storys about you fighting an absolute joke in Harrison.
It depends who he fights next. Personally I had no problem with Barrett and Valuev (which I think is a decent win). Ruiz was a gimmie but he now needs to step it up, and quick. I don't know what happend with the Klitschko negotiations but he needs to fight an Adamek or equal and then force the Klitschko issue. He's gone a bit quiet - too quiet for my liking. He either needs to make a Klitschko fight or ignore the issue for the time being, becuase he is not coming off very well.
I just want to see him get KOed or school by chagaev or Koed by adamek,, or droped by boystov. I though he was the real deal but now. ****ing hate him.. Hes a hype job little *****. fights 3 bums in like 2 years and what now.
I am a huge Haye fan, but unfortunately tend to agree with OP, it would be an absolute travesty if he gave Fraudley a shot, A Farce was having the granny beat out of him by Sprott FFS before that hail mary punch. I dont tend to accept that all is as cut and dried with the Klits as they would make it appear, i am sure there will be options and crappy purse splits on offer but it allows them to spout of about Haye ducking. Again, the OP is right though, David needs to keep us fans informed because currently allowing everyone to think that a Harrison fight is going to happen is a pretty poor state of affairs.
It is baffling, agreed. I really have no idea what hes playing at to be honest, but to be fair the constant bull**** hes spouted over the past few years has worked in regards to promotion. Even when he doesn't say anything people can't stop talking about him.
I had no problem with Barret or Valuev or Ruiz either. but if he had won those fights without the Klitscko calls out inbetween and before, and just saved them for afterwards, fans would be behind him now instead of agaisnt him. For me, he should have faced Barrett and then got a final eliminator for the WBC/WBO/IBF. That way he would be mandatory challanger for Klitsckos, he gets a guarenteed 25% and no options if he wins. Sure he has made more money that way but I couldn't give a **** what Haye earns.
I think more fans would be behind him, yes. Others would still hate him because he would still be a **** talker in their eyes regardless of what he has done to date. My problem at the moment is that he is waaaay too quiet. There is nothing at all from him? He needs to come back here in a big way with a notable fight (Klitschko or not) and drum up the interest. Imagine a WALDO - Povetkin fight with Haye - Adamek as chief support. Winners would face each other. All the hype would be back and there would be some geniune interest in the division and in the fights / outcomes. It would be better than coming on here and reading that, than reading the ****ing stupidly ******ed anti-Haye brigade repeat the same post after post after post.