Floyd will agree to fight Pacquiao...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PH|LLA, Jul 15, 2010.


  1. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What is the "settlement of some matter" in this case? It does not appear to me that anything is "settled".

    Get out into the real world and you'll understand my point.
     
  2. RAW

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    I think martinez is a tougher fight for floyd, but pac would mean more legacy wise. I think martinez's height, reach, good jab, & movement would make for a more competitive fight w/ floyd than pac.
     
  3. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I guess my first paragragh could have been a little more clear:D I was talking about the first round of negotiations when Floyd had fought JMM and Manny fought Cotto. The intial round of negotiations had Manny holding more leverage b/c he did have better numbers against very popular fighters

    Round 2 saw Floyd fight Shane who is very popular and Manny fight Josh who is no where near popular...even in his home town and country he's not remotely popular.:D

    So yea...this time Floyd is enjoying the leverage but having that leverage creates the obstacle that could kill this fight.....so in essence the power and leverage is in the WRONG hands....simply b/c Floyd is willing to use that to kill the fight. Where Manny was willing to use his leverage in order to make the fight.

    Floyd didn't give PAC 50/50 during the 1st round of negotiations....PAC gave that to Floyd and Floyd accepted! B/c he knew that Manny was the P4P king and his PPV#'s were lower than Manny's.

    And again.....Floyd just ASKING for something like Olympic style demands and spreading accusations taht he couldn't support with any eveidence should be clear as day that he was looking for a way out.:yep Or it was all a great scheme to try and delay the fight....Mission accomplished Floyd.

    Now hopeuflly Floyd's mission isn't to KILL the fight this go round other wise we ain't seeing this mega fight.

    Tyson asked holy to take blood test IMMEDIATELY after the fight which Holy agreed to. But it wasn't Olympic style testing homie. It was just a blood test to see if Holy would test positive for Roids which Manny wouldn't have any problems doing.

    Crack is a poor man's version of Cocaine homie and I didn't mean to offend. i hope I didn't hit "home" with you by my joke. Cocaine and Crake are not at all similar with who uses it and how it affects them overall. I'm sure you know that but UNsure why you are trying to spin it.:huh

    Fighters should fight....bottom line and Floyd ain't doing that. He's coming up with ways to avoid fighting PAC. For wahtever reason. Only Money knows why he is seemingly unwilling to make his biggest payday against a fighter whom he has always stated was over hyped and not on his level.....

    Yet he wants him to take tests?:lol: Fo Real MONEY??? :rofl

    You're reaching Bald mike....it's not a good look. My analysis can be weak especially with the "weak sauce" you bringing me. It only makes you look like completel fluff.

    I recgonize greatness...Floyd is great. So is Manny. But I call a spade a spade and Floyd is the one dipping out on this challenge...REAL TALK! I hope he does man up....Will he? Who knows with this version of Floyd who seems to have lost some of that confidence that he's known for. He can still talk it....but walking it is still left to be seen.

    And I'm not that "guy" who would bet on Liston over Ali. I wasn't the "guy" who bet on Cotto over Manny either.....a clear sign of not recognizing greatness. Who did you pick again when Cotto and Manny fought?:huh

    Love boxing...grew up in it and I'll die with it.
     
  4. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Charlie you are like talking to a wall man. If you are good at your job why don't you just work for free or half of what you could be paid?

    He IS dominating Pac in Gate and PPVs! Have you even checked the numbers? Manny is creating the obstacles. Mosley did the USADA drug testing and go it in. Why can't Manny?

    No my man. Show me the fighter who Mayweather gets credit for that was KTFO in his previous high level fight and/or was weight drained into a skeleton.

    Manny is fighting a loser. If you don't know the difference between competitive loss and KTFO with a towel thrown in... Why am I even talking to you? :huh

    Honestly man you have said nothing. Tell Arum to post the terms he presented. When he does you and the world will see that Arum had no intention of making the fight and every intention of another Rot Stank Boxing Entertainment Cash Buffet.
     
  5. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You know what, the more I talk to these guys the more I feel like they have NEVER done any business in their lives. :think
     
  6. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Martinez is an easier fight for Floyd than emmanuel.
     
  7. RAW

    RAW Active Member Full Member

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    i thought i was the only one that could see this.
     
  8. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  9. RAW

    RAW Active Member Full Member

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    we'll see.
     
  10. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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  11. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nothing is settled. The settlement is trying to come to an agreement of when the cutoff date will be to sign the contract. Arum isnt looking to negotiate the cutoff date. Its an ultimatum.
     
  12. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    :good
     
  13. ericsupreme

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    he better sign or retire, no excuses!!
     
  14. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Talking to a wall? Ok.....I get the same feeling with everything you post but it's all good. I see you got some common sense. And you aren't too far gone like a lot of other posters.

    We ain't gotta agree on everything but be a little open minded for christ sakes. Being good at your job and getting paid half or nothing is not the same as what's going on with Floyd and manny bro.:rofl I mean for real homie.

    I like you and everythign but you got some real twisted thought process that goes on up there in the old noggin. BOTH are GREAT at what the do. And BOTH are the BEST at what they do. So BOTH should and would get paid HANDSOMELY if they fight. It's easier to debate effectively comparing apples to apples.

    Ray and Hearns got an even purse split when they fought. Ray was seemingly the more popular fighter but both were considered the top fighters in their division and they knew it made BUSINESS SEN$E to split it up equally and make that money. It was a lot smarter than to ***** and complain about getting a percent more and miss out on the LOOOOOONG money altogether.

    Mosely was looking for a payday...sure he thought he could win but he didn't have any bargaining chips to NOT accept the silly demands that was created for MANNY. Shane was just the by product of being the "fall back" plan for Floyd. Floyd HAD to demand the same thing for Shane espcecially b/c Shane actually was proven to abuse PEDs in the past where Manny didn't. Floyd isn't a ******...he would have had a lot of "splaining" to do if he went back to the old floyd and fought with out specail demands Lucy....:lol:

    JMM lost to Manny twice and Floyd decided to get his tune up in instead of Facing Manny right off the bat. Floyd fought Shane when Manny already beat the guy that Shane lost to in Cotto.

    All this weight drained BS and being old or shot is all for the birds bro. ....it's excuses used to rationalize why Manny is doing well. They do it for Floyd too...it ain't right but it comes witht he territory.

    Manny beat Ricky who was competive with Floyd....PAC dominated the same Ricky at Ricks BEST weight and did so in 2 rounds. It took Floyd 10 hard rounds agianst Ricky who was posing as a Welter weight.

    Manny dominated DLH who Floyd struggle to get a decision against and although it was at DLH natural weight Manny was moving up 2 division to Floyd's ONE when he dominated DLH. So it was pretty even in my opinion....Manny just did better.:D

    Honestly..... it's not taht you can't understand logic it's that when it comes to Floyd it's easier to accept whatever he says b/c you like him so much. I get that but relax and try to be open minded. Just some advice bro.

    And at the end of the day.....if Floyd wants Manny to stop fighting "Losers"...which are the same "losers" he fought:lol:...then just step up and let Manny fight a "winner". Floyd's call if he wants to be that "guy".
     
  15. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Oh, there will be excuses alright.
    Just wait and see. He has a legal team right here on ESB to tell you how bull**** the contract was.