Who is really trying to hurt who? Pac on roids? Floyd a chicken?

So because Arum hates Floyd so much his master plan is to deny himself of millions of dollars before his best current fighter retires?

What else is Arum scheming? What are these insane requests that I keep hearing about?

So why does going through a third party make all these talks pointless? Do you really think Arum wouldn't be throwing this dude's name out there if he didn't believe it was helping? He's either throwing him under the bus or the guy is gonna call Arum out for being a liar.

Glove weight? Purse? Ring size? You mean things that everyone always negotiates before a fight?

Hmmm... Isn't there some weird rogue request in their negotiations that no one has requested before? Oh yeah! The drug testing.

Oh yeah which team has also said nothing but bad things when talking about the other side? Team Mayweather has never said a single good thing about Pacquiao and actually has no LEGITIMATE reason to be antagonistic towards him. Okay, so they believe he's on drugs. Why does that mean they have to be assholes towards him?

Has Pacquiao done anything overtly provocative towards any of them? Where did all this artificial animosity come from? Other than getting angry at Floyd for insulting him (on current unproven accusations) I've yet to see Pac lash out at Floyd verbally. Heck when he talks about him. He speaks highly of Floyd as a fighter?

I'm a Pac fan and if they fight I feel there is a very very good chance that he could lose. I don't want it to happen and I'd be sad to see it happen, but I can accept that possibility.

In the end I truly believe that Pacquiao wants this fight. He, contrary to what Floyd says actually cares about his legacy and is willing to gamble his possible career ending fight to cement himself in history.

So if you 100% believe Arum and the Pacquiao gang are just a bunch of spiteful men. Please fully explain how trying to ruin Floyd with a chance of completely losing the fight accomplishes for them in the end.

Before Floyd came out of retirement, I had no reason to dislike the guy.
But since then, he's just lit this fire under all our asses. It's just drawn the worst out of many of us. ON BOTH SIDES. Floyd is a chicken. Pac is a druggie. These are subjective arguments.

If we want to really continue arguing can we base any argument on actual things that have been said or reported? Floyd is not a chicken until he completely rejects the fight. Pac isn't a druggie until tests say otherwise.

 

Umm I can beat Pac anyday

Pac's on A-meth or SOME **** (as they like to put it)

He's one dimentional.

He's never beat nobody

He's not a draw

He's a joke

Cut the test out. Why do you have to dwell on that? It's the same as saying if Floyd and his team know he's gonna whip Pac's ass with 100% certainty why haven't they said yes yet. Ahh with my deductive abilities Floyd must be a chicken! It goes both ways and we can't PROVE anything as of right now, so ARGUING about those things is POINTLESS!



Why haven't you answered any of my other questions?
Why does Floyd have to be so antagonistic? Instead of calling Pac an outright cheater he could have sugar coated it by talking to him. Maybe he could say "Hey since the boxing world's eyes are on us, how about we use are star power to change the scene?"
At least invite him in.

So if Arum is a lying sack of ****, what are his ulterior motives?

 

Ah, so now giving an opinion on him as a fighter is banned? So Pac and his fans are against free speech?

Like I told you Roger is just a trainer. Just like Roach. What they say doesn't really count in a business sense.

He is a draw. Mayweather is just the bigger draw.

He is a joke. You see he is trying to fight Margarito or Cotto.

Because drug testing is the reason this fight died. Pac doesn't want to drug test. So now Pac fans are sanctioning CHEATING in boxing? If you aren't then you should be all for drug testing.

Your other questions make no sense because you have no grasp of opinions, teams, etc... you just lump it all together and rage about it.

Tell me when he called Pac a cheater? Tell me when he asked Pac to do ANYTHING he himself was not willing to do? He took all the same tests as Mosley. He would do the exact same with Pac. So now ask yourself, why won't Pac test?

He wants to whip Pac's ass. They can be friends later. Hopefully Pac's lips will be too swollen to sing.

His motive is the same. Protect Pac from an ass whipping and keep the cash rolling in. So he keeps matching Pac up with garbage fights with Top Rank fighters. Pac should fight Williams, Bert, Bradley, or Alexander, but he won't. Too much challenge. Instead he will fight Cotto and Margarito. Both of which were recently knocked out. Sad.


Ok so why does FLOYD feel like he needs to act like a ****ing ******* an raise a total stick. If he's so smart and well spoken why did he choose to be confrontational when there was nothing there.

I didn't say that Pac was a bigger draw. But the way is says it. It's as if Pac isn't popular at all.

By insisting on the drug testing specifically for Pac. He didn't ask Marquez on his first fight back. He is implying that he must have cheated along the way.


And I feel my questions make complete sense. Why do you fight so hard and get so angry about this stuff? I'm not angry at Floyd or what he does, but it definitely bothers me, because what he's doing is completely pointless. His acting like a bully hasn't helped get this fight any closer.

Until Floyd came out of retirement, was there any reason to say **** about Pac or did he do something that just rubbed people the wrong way?

Floyd is just acting like one of those guys you accidentally bump shoulders with while walking on the street and then he suddenly thinks you're picking a fight.

Again give me a reason he NEEDS to act this way towards Pacquiao's side. Why are people so worked up on this stuff? Both sides are saying the other is full of ****.

GUESS WHAT? WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING AT ALL! And it's useless to argue over this stuff on both sides.