Green v Briggs - There's Got To Be More To It

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by The Kirwan Kid, Jul 21, 2010.


  1. The Kirwan Kid

    The Kirwan Kid Member Full Member

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    Firstly, can I say I was gutted watching the fight last night. I really believed that in spite of Paul being out of the ring for 3 years he would come out swinging, go toe to toe for 5/6 rounds and either a. win by a flash knock-down or b. get stopped via tko due to a general lack of fitness.

    If the rumours are true about him getting paid $200K for the fight then I can't believe he would throw it away for that amount of money. He;'s got kids, a family to support and his reputation asa a real warrior has ensured him of media roles (i.e the contender, commentary), personal training and motivational speaking that he can live on for life. From that aspect alone I can't believe he has personally thrown it.

    If he did I also believe he would have been smart enough to wait until he copped one that caught him flush. He's been around the fight game long enough to know that there would be an investigation for something like this.

    So, here's some thoughts:

    1. The only footage saw of his training was him going through some drills and he looked really sluggish. If he really was that bad why didn't somebody say "no, you aren't fighting mate." I personally can't believe Billy Hussein would risk his reputation and future income being involved in a fight that was fixed. He has too much respect for the sport.

    2. Did he spar in training? I can only assume he didn't as he knew he was only one hit away from serious damage.

    3. Was he really hurt? We know the punch couldn't have "hurt" him in the way we talk about punches hurting but was that grazing blow enough to do something to his brain? He really didn't look well on the ground ...

    4. He had some pressure - and we know he has had dealings with dodgy folks - to take a dive that just couldn't be avoided (i.e threats on his kids or whatever) so he figures if "I am going to have to take a dive then I'll make it look like one so it gets looked into."

    I used to train at the briggs' gym at Rocklea and also had a bit to do with him while he was working as a DJ ... he never struck me as a bully or someone who wouldn't have a go when it got tough. I am really gutted ...
     
  2. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good post - have wondered the same things.

    Believe Briggs sparred 10 rounds with Peter Metrevski the other day - surely amongst that he would've worn a few?


    The reputations of many people fall into question after this fiasco:

    1/ If it truly was a medical issue there's a list of culprits - starting with the organisation, the doctors, the trainers, himself and probably others.

    2/ If it's a dive/gambling scenario - logically it's a different list of people to blame.


    One thing's for certain. There's no winner in this whichever way it pans out.
     
  3. pegson123

    pegson123 Member Full Member

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    The MRI might show everything is structually sound. IT wouldnt show how much pressure things could take before collapsing.
     
  4. Kegsy

    Kegsy Lights Out Full Member

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    How good does the NSW Boxing Authority look now.:deal

    These sorts of reasons is why we need a national commission, some of these state commissions need to wake up to themselves & have a cold hard look in the mirror.
     
  5. AussieMauler

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    I have to admit every one of those thoughts passed through my head last night.

    i just want to believe there is more to it
     
  6. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    NSW BA certainly come out smelling like roses, and plainly, Green can forget any legal action he might have planned against anybody.
     
  7. CarltonBlues

    CarltonBlues Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He dived, there's nothing else to it.
     
  8. raff

    raff Well-Known Member Full Member

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    iu believe there is more too it, & also wondered about the threat to his kids etc, & he didnt look well when he was on the ground, at the same time, i feel for danny but serves him right for fighting a retired fighter, this has made him look bad as well as exposing the "agreed weight" crap but still fighting for the cruiser title.
     
  9. "DJ"

    "DJ" Member Full Member

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    I think there is more too it and people should wait for

    1. Any medical info to be released
    2. Briggs to release a statement

    before people write him off as "diving" or throwing the fight...

    I find it hard to believe that he would throw a fight, let alone throw it in that fashion.

    As there was a betting plunge, maybe someone knew he wasnt well, and it would only take one small punch...

    If thats the case omeone other than Briggs must have known that it wasn’t going to go well and should have stopped it from going ahead.

    It wouldn’t surprise me that even if Paul was the only one to know he wasnt well, he would still go ahead with the fight…


    With me, it comes down to not believing Briggs would take a dive...
     
  10. "The outcome of the fight was highly, highly dubious," Centrebet spokesman Neil Evans told Fairfax.
    "We've never ever in the history of boxing seen so much money go on a specific decision outcome, as in a first or second-round knockout.
    "There was a massive go on first or second round knock-out starting from very early yesterday morning, right through the day, certainly up until early afternoon.
    "There were hundreds and hundreds of bets of all different shapes and sizes, and a lot of them from Western Australia. There was one bet of $50,000 which is extraordinary on an option of a first-round knock-out, even on a hot favourite.
    "They were both into even money, paying $2 each at around lunch-time almost, such was the amount of money just poured in the gate."
     
  11. goodnight

    goodnight The Ayatula of Rockenrula Full Member

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    this is gonna end badly
     
  12. AustraHungarian

    AustraHungarian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Excellent post! Intelligent stuff!

    When all is said and done nobody bar Briggs will ever know the real truth about what went down last night and I fear that the damage to boxing in this country is irreparable. Between this and the Mundine circus, what next?
     
  13. Bognashavin

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    When will we get to hear from Briggs?
     
  14. grazz

    grazz New Member Full Member

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    Knowing the type of fighter Paul was i just cant imagine him taking a dive it just makes no sence,i would love to hear what he has to say about it all so until that happens i for one aint jumping to conclusions just yet
     
  15. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everybody knows what type of fighter Paul was Grazz, and you're right people are jumping to all sorts of conclusions.

    Unfortunately though I can't think of one single possibility where he comes out looking any good here.

    His 'best' scenario is probably the 'he got KOed in training only a few days ago' rumour, and that the first tap following that KO just completely disoriented him. Obviously, if that is the case he should have pulled, or been pulled out. Perhaps he though if that happened he'd never get another go at the loot?

    Even if all that does prove correct, word sure got out, because the bookies phones nearly melted.