Was Karmazin D12 Sylvester a fair call? I missed it.

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  1. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    I was rooting for Karmazin.

    From what I read it seemed fair enough, what was everyone's thoughts on the Draw?

    How do you think a rm would go if it happened?
     
  2. Bajingo

    Bajingo Boxing Junkie banned

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    I didn't see it, but most thought Karmazin won although it wasn't a complete robbery.
     
  3. Havik

    Havik Active Member Full Member

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    Karmazin won it for me, though if you're really, deeply in love with hard, clean punching, I could see it as being somewhat close. Here's the rbr from the general: http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=231499&highlight=karmazin&page=5, most had Karmazin winning. There was another one I participated in, in either the Euro or Brit forum where we also agreed that Karmazin had won.
    So did 2 of the judges iirc, until Sauerland went over to their table and convinced one judge to change his score from a Karmazin win to a draw by telling the judge he wasn't allowed to score even rounds under IBF rules. Still, not the worst robbery in the world.

    Karmazin isn't getting any younger, and Sylvester might come in a bit better prepared this time. Sylvester should be favorite for the rematch.
     
  4. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Sylvester wasn't even in the fight until about round 8/9.

    Karmazin definetely deserved the win.

    Like my old man says; If you fighting in Germany, you need to knock em' out just to get a draw!
     
  5. El Fisto

    El Fisto hi Full Member

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    I had Sylvester winning 1 or 2 rounds tops. It was a robbery.
     
  6. kk17

    kk17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Karmazin deserved the win.
     
  7. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. Tommy O C

    Tommy O C VIVA LA MEXICO!!!! Full Member

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    In my opinion Karmazin won all of the first 6/7 rounds and stole another couple after that. I had him a pretty clear winner. He was snapping sylvesters head back with double and triple jabs all night.
    A for a rematch, I think that might have been Karmazins last big performance. I also think sylvester couldnt be that bad again. He barely landed a punch for the first 4 or 5 rounds
     
  9. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    Hmmm so far everyone's thoughts have been a little different. I expected most to favor Karmazin from the articles I've read.
     
  10. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    It wasnt the kind of out and out robbery you see in Germany but i thought Karmazin won
     
  11. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Full fight is available on Youtube in HD if you want to see for yourself.
     
  12. Bodysnatcher

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  13. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sylvester showed clean and effective punching, Karmazin showed, mostly ineffective, aggression. Sylvester was inactive quite often thus making the fight closer than it should have been. Robbery only in the eyes of people who think you can win a fight purely on aggression.
     
  14. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i saw the fight.. and it WAS a robbery!
     
  15. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    didnt fightnews score it for sylvester