Quitting. How does it affect a legacy?

Sorry mate but I couldn't resist.

 

You hate Vitali though...:think

 

A is most definitely relevant. He was in his prime and had every possible reason a fighter could need to finish the fight. There is no excuse to quit in a situation like that with that kind of injury. Most fighters would be hoping to all hell the ref won't call it off, not quitting themselves!

 

:good

 

It honestly depends on how you quit. Cintron quit against Williams and blamed it on the ref, the doctor and the ring. Ortiz just flat out quit and said he didn't want to fight no more. Alot of fighters quit and still keep on fighting thinking that they haven't quit such as Mosely against Mayweather. Some let their corner know through their actions to quit for them and save face. Golata quit by hitting a guys so low that the fight had to be stopped. In the end though alot of fighters have quit and I only think of Ortiz and Robert Gerrero as quiters

 

quitting is a lot harder to deal with than doing your best and losing. sucsesful fighters dont have any problem doing their best so we judge them harshly when they opt not to do this. sucsesful fighters get where they are by pushing themselves and making huge sacrafices. Its hard to swalow when without an apaling injury they retire in the corner in a big fight that many men would give their balls to be in.
I respect the journey man who takes his lumps for round after round in a thankles task. I always hope the ref stops him before he is humiliated into quitting. I know these guys cant live with with the consequenses of having to deal with a quitjob. these guys take it year in year out until they cant do it no more. If a champ quits when these guys dont it should affect their legacy.

 

:deal

 

The broken record continues. Vitali is a sports doctor. He knew he had a bad shoulder tear, and when his arm went numb, he opted retire rather than risk permanent injury. The fact that he was beating a prime Byrd with good working arm shows how good he is.

If you want to talk about quit jobs, might as well get your attention!

Ezzard Charles quit one round after a cut!

Marciano quit by kicking a guy when he was tired in an amateur match!

Walcott in my opinion quit by opting not to get up in the 2nd match with Marciano.

And how about your boy Sonny Liston? And Jake Lamotta? And Jack Johnson? And Harry Wills? Yes, they all quit in matches too. I could list dozens of guys with worse quit jobs.

In fact the hall of fame is full of fighters who retired. I doubt you know that because you’re fixated on dogmatic narrow parts of boxing, while casting a blind eye to reality as a whole.
Here’s my take on quitting in boxing. If a fighter has an injury that could have jeopardized their career as Vitali did its one thing. If they quit because they were on their way out from punches, or cuts, that is another thing.

 

Depends if you were made to quit or just quit yourself. If you made yourself quit then its almost entirely your opponents fault

 

It doesn't as far as I'm concerned. It's easy to pour scorn when you're not the one getting hit.

 

A guy with Liston in his avatar lecturing people on quitting? :roflatsch

 

The irony is off the charts.

 

I agree, it is a good point that you have raised.

I think that quitting at the end of your career is not as bad as when you are coming up \ looking to become a champ.