Kotelnik landed only 20 more punches but was outthrown by 400. What a robbery!

people seem to forget Devon is VERY young. But i agree, he did not win this fight and in my eyes he is no longer champion.

 

you consider 64 out of 647 jabs landed excellent? 10 percent connect rate excellent? You are as delusional as Lederman

 

Not to mention, 19% connect percentage from a guy who had way way way more speed and athleticism. It's not like Kotelnik is some great defensive boxer or something too.

 

I clearyl remember you were the most vocal on ESB about the Direll vs Froch fight? If I remember correctly, you were adamant about the result being a robbery because Direll LANDED the cleaner and more effective punches because Froch was punching nothing but air?
GTFOH man, make up your mind already.

 

as per Boxing Ears quote which i posted in the previous post, first 5 rounds to alexander, 5 rounds to kotelnik. Last 2 was basically a draw and could have gone either way. No, im not placing myself within the technical confines of a judge, since im a fan and not a judge. IMO as a fan, that fight came out as a draw.

The champion does have to defend his belt. He does that by fighting his mandatory fights, lol. It is the on the challenger to take that belt away from him, definitively, or suffer a losing decision. It is unsaid that the champion WILL get the benefit of a close decision. The champion WILL retain his belt on a draw. The challenger WILL NOT gain the belt from a draw. So it IS on the Challenger to take the belt.

 

damn this guy owned you warrior. what possible response could the warrior have when his delusions got exposed so hard. Alexander, the new best jab in boxing. his "medicore" jab nights must be scary as well connecting at a 5 percent connect!

 

Michigan handicap

 

To be fair that's about the same connect rate Khan had against him, so he must have a pretty decent defence. It's a basic shell he uses but it's effective.

 

Everytime an underdog does better than expected people here cry robbery,it happens all the time.

 

I concur. Just like you say, some poster came up with punch stats to somehow provide arguments for a Froch win. The stats showed that an equal amount of punches was landed or something lika that. For all of us who scored the fight, it was clear that Dirrell landed more by a considerable amount.

If I'm not wrong MWarrior then, in that thread, said that you CANNOT look at punch stats as a reliable way to score a fight. They don't tell the whole picture, not to mention the stats in themselves are subjective and therefore often highly erratic. About as far from "stats" as you can get. And he's perfectly right. In pro boxing, it's about clean and effective punching. And above all it's round-by-round-scoring - which basically makes pulling up numbers for the whole fight stupid.

The question is then - why not take the same stance against punch stats in this fight? Surely it can't be ok to bring them up in some cases but dismiss them in others?

Anything from 9-3 to 6-6 Kotelnik btw (I had it 8-4). A draw is if you're generous to Devon. 8-4 to Devon I simply can't see. That score is a robbery in my eyes.

 

You're a joke, mate.

 

Against Kotelnik, Khan had 17 percent jabs and 26.5 percent power shots. He landed 208-140 (overall) and 96-28 (jab connects) advantages while staying even with 112 power connects on 80 more attempts (423-343).

This was Khans first fight at 140 and going for the title etc, hes much improved since then though, esp with his jab, but youre point still stands.

 

Reminded me of lovemore ndou vs Shamba mitchell but that was a far worse robbery.

 

But Khan also used hooks and actually went to Kotelniks body.

Alexander was throwing the same crap the whole fight. Jabs and straight one twos.

 

There's a difference b/w better then expected and controlling the whole fight.