Where did that actually come from? Surely there is a set criteria for scoring a fight? Well that was the impression I was under. I thought that meant that fighters are awarded points on effective aggression, ring control, clean punching. Judges should also surely be looking for the same things and know how to score a pro boxing fight. Now we are hearing more and more this score a fight based on what you like mantra. I think many involved in boxing are adopting the volume scores points regardless of them landing or not. Then you are punishing the guy who is doing the other stuff right, blocking, slipping, countering and landing clean punches. Surely this can't be the way to score pro boxing fights and there needs to be concensus on the scoring criteria not scoring on what you like. If we want to be true to the sport of boxing, fighters need to be rewarded for showing skill good timing accuracy etc.
Ring generalship, effective aggression, defense and a strong emphasis on clean effective punching. That, I believe is the proper criteria to scoring a fight. Since scoring is subjective, going by "who would you have rather been" or "who you liked better in the round" isnt all that wrong.
I hate when Max Kellerman says a round should be scored on the concept of which fighter you would have rather been in a round. We have a set of guidelines, and those are the guidelines. For example, In round 1 Fighter A has dictated where the fight took place, he moved forward for most of the round, slipped most of the punches thrown by Fighter B and also landed more often and with more power than Fighter B. However, in the closing 20 seconds of the round Fighter B catches Fighter A with a hard counter that hurts Fighter A and gets Figher A to go on the defensive for the remaining 18 seconds of the round. Fighter B cannot follow up and the bell rings. Fighter A looks out of it the corner and Figher B looks like he can't wait to get back out there. Who won round 1? Using the official criteria you would have to say A won because he dominated the round up until the last 20 seconds. However, if you asked me who i would rather be it is obvious that Fighter B is the answer. Fighter A won the round and using another set of criteria is just disorganized.
Yes, scoring a round in boxing isn't quite as simple as that. You actually have to know what you're looking and and be able to break down the action according to the given criteria which is not just based on damage done in a round alone, but how well you actually box and apply the skills of your craft and impose them on your opponent. Which is also why casual fans have scorecards that read all over the place.. because they don't really have the know how to interpret what they're seeing.
...I wonder what criteria was used for the Alexander/Kotelnik fight on 8/8/10? I have rarely witnessed such uniformly godawful judging...Oh, sorry,nevermind. I forgot...Alexander wins no matter what happens....I guess that's what makes me a casual fan. I smell home cooking...naw...it's only the river.
But this is it, I am getting a little confused now. Judges more and more seem to be favouring the guy who "looks" the busiest. But thats far too simplistic a criteria as someone mentioned to score a professional boxing fight. Why are judges not taking in to account all the aspects of the professional game, and use a fixed judging criteria and have some kind of standard across the board. Something seriously needs to be done about this, or we will see more fights go the way of Kotelnik/Alexander. Fighters will just go out there and throw hands, and hope for the best. Boxing is going down a very slippery slope now. I've never seen it, where a fighter, lands the most telling shots, lands the most shots overall, make his opponant miss with great frequency, bust him up, HIT him with every shot in the book, and lose by 4 rounds on all cards! We need to stop with the what you like better crap, and judges need to know how to score a fight, based on the criteria mentioned in this thread. I mean, hell if us fans know it, why don't they? Cos if people are honest, Alexander was falling short on all counts and by these guidelines was surely losing rounds, due to Kotelnik applying himself far better in all departments. Would love the judges explanation on how they scored that fight.
Sometimes we see rounds where one guy looked like he was in charge (ring generalship) but the other guy actually landed more flush shots (clean effective punching.) Scoring a round like that ends up being rather subjective (depends on what you like.) In the Pirog/Jacobs fight 3 of the first 4 rounds fell into the category above. Pirog always looked like he was in charge. Jacobs was throwing and landing more.