Tavoris Cloud vs Beibut Shumenov

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  1. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who ya got? :bbb
     
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  2. Sokrates

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    If Shuumenov fights as recklessly as he did against Campillo and runs out of gas in the second half of each round, then he might take a horific beating by Cloud.
    Unfortunately this is the only fight I've seen of this guy, but I've heard, that this his usual style. Maybe he can fix that, when he's more experienced.
     
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  3. Farmboxer

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    Cloud was lucky to get a draw against Johnson. Shumenov would hurt him.
     
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  4. Mr. Zero

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    Personally, I think Shumenov sucks. I don't have a problem with this fight, but I'd like to see my boy Chris Henry get his shot @ Shumenov since Chris won a WBA eliminator against Garay. I don't have a problem seeing Tavoris knocking Beibut out though.
     
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  5. Prince

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    Cloud beat Johnson you dumb ******ed ****.
     
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  6. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cloud would destroy Shumenov.
     
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  7. SportsLeader

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    Shumenov looked a lot better recently against Uzelkov, but he is not yet in the same league as cloud.
     
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  8. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think this Cloud would stop Shumenov in a FOTY candidate. Great clash of styles there.
     
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  9. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anybody who had Johnson beating Cloud really knows jack **** about scoring a fight. Tavoris was the rightful winner.
     
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  10. Brickhaus

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    Potentially a great fight, but I think Cloud's defense is just a little better and that when he punches in combination, he's more explosive. Cloud by close decision or late stoppage.

    I believe Shumenov is tied up for a while though. He has to rematch Campillo next, and then the winner of that one needs to face Chris Henry.
     
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  11. Azriel

    Azriel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Are you going to say this in all the threads? Are you a little slow?:good
     
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  12. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I like Shumenov on points. There was a marked improvement in his performance against Uzelkov, which was the first time he's had a full training camp to focus on fighting since he hired a co-promoter. I also think he's faster than Cloud and despite Cloud having so many more fights, Shumenov's fought the tougher competition so far.

    Cloud gets hit too much from fighters without much speed to make me think he would be able to defend that well against Shumenov, which is a key to beating him. Shumenov has his own openings for Cloud to exploit as well, which is why I think it'd be such a good fight. Shumenov gets hit and though Cloud's power is a little overstated compared to his resume, he still certainly packs enough punch to do some damage.
     
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  13. CYoungblood95

    CYoungblood95 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i'll take shumenov, dont like what I see from cloud TBH...however it would be a good fight because I'm not too high on either...i think shumenov is kind of stuck in between, being that he is not a great boxer nor is he a great slugger, his conditioning seems poor and he does not seem to take punches well...cloud on the other hand is a good slugger, but i dont see much boxing skill from him.
     
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  14. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    Agreed. :deal
     
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  15. CLUBBER

    CLUBBER C.R.A.B. BOXING Full Member

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    :thumbsup:deal
     
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