Your top 5 middleweights hardest hitters?

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  1. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have no problem with any of these lists. Of course, my honorable mention for hardest hitter goes to Tony Ayala. Pipino Cuevas and Bobby Czyz can definitely attest.

    Hagler vs. Ayala would've been one of the greatest MW tussles of all-time.
     
  2. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just being a hard hitter is not the way to beat a prime marvin.....
     
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    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ayala's immense talent was matched only by his rage.

    Win, lose, or draw, I could definitely see Tony holding his own against Marvin.
     
  4. NickHudson

    NickHudson Active Member Full Member

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    I dont agree with this. Haglers power was not at all extraordinary. There are a number of performances in his career when he has fighters looking on the brink of stoppage, and then it will take several more rounds of punishment before he is finally able to put them away.

     
  5. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I also don't believe Marv's hardest punches were extraordinarily powerful. It was his incredible ability to take a punch that allowed him to outslug far harder punchers than himself.

    However, one of Hagler's Sunday punches was his right jab, and when a low risk jab is as deadly as Hagler's was, that fighter is certainly going to leave the impression of being a lethal puncher, especially with Marv's physical appearance. (Let's face it, did Tony Ayala look at all lethal before the bell even rang?) On a P4P basis, who had a harder jab than Hagler?
     
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    McCallum has no right being in the list and Hagler should be outside it as well. Many bigger hitters. McCallum especially.
     
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    Hagler had some viscious knockouts
    Obel,Hamani,Lee, Hearns, and Monroe
     
  8. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh, don't get me wrong, Marv had some spectacularly vicious knockouts. (I love the way Obel fell in sections from Marv's leaping right hook in their rematch. Shades of Patterson/Johansson II!) But Antuofermo rated Marv behind Cyclone Hart and Bennie Brisco in punching power (an assessment Hagler might agree with). Hearns also claimed before SRL/Hagler, that Ray was actually the harder puncher of the two, although nobody could take a punch like Marv. While Hagler had documented one punch knockout power in both hands, there's a question of whether or not he was even in the top five middleweights in punching power during the course of his own career, let alone all-time.

    If Hagler had been able to bomb out SRL and Duran as Hearns did Duran, then it would be easier to make a case for Hagler belonging on a top five list.
     
  9. Raggamuffin

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    Hagler would make Ayala look like a caraccident victim after this bout.
    Easy money for Marvellous with Ayala way too small
     
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  11. heerko koois

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    1 - John Mugabi
    2- Julian Jackson
    3- Thomas Hearns
    4- Gerald Mcclellan
    5- Nigel Benn
     
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    Raggamuffin You dipstick Full Member

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    Excellent choice:happy
    But not in that order

    The Hawk
    The Hitman
    G-Man
    Mugabi
    Dark Destroyer
     
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  14. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What has Thomas Hearns done at 160 or 168 pounds to deserve high ranking among hardest hitters? Stopped Shuler and Roldan? Huh?
     
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  15. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearns' fights

    at 160:
    Ernie Singletary - decision
    Jeff McCracken - ko
    Murray Sutherland - decision
    Marvin Hagler - lost
    James Shuler - ko
    Doug DeWitt - decision
    Juan Domingo Roldan - ko
    Iran Barkley - lost

    at 168:
    James Kinchen - decision
    Sugar Ray Leonard - draw
    Michael Olajide - decision

    Only 3 KO wins out of 11 fights.