Why couldn't Dawson outbox Pascal when Froch could?

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  1. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What surprised me in the Froch V Pascal fight is how many times they hit each other in the back of the head. I also think the 118 110 was a bit too wide.
     
  2. lastletter26

    lastletter26 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Style and gameplans make fights.

    First off: Hats off to pascal and his team which came in with an unexpected gameplan (IMO) that ultimately beat chad dawson.

    From the first round on I saw something that made me think wow. That was the fact that dawson was the stalker and pascal was the mover. I really thought this would be the other way around and was surprised that dawsons people didn't ajust a little bit to beat the style and strategy that pascal was using.

    Pascal's strategy IMO was to jump in with shots(flurries) while dawson moved after him from time to time conserving most of his energy. This basically plays off of fans cheering at every time pascal swings which not only makes it hard for judges but also got into dawson's head. When pascal did jump in with his flurry he rarely landed the first shot he threw(minus a few straght rights), but was able to knock dawson off balance to land the second, third, forth or how many he had to throw to land one. Also Like I always say "Getting knocked off balance even if you block a shot is never a good look to the judges". This basically took chad off his game as he is the hunted and not the hunter in just about all of his fights. When you chase then you surrender your feet to a fighter moving laterally. The pascal strategy turned an all around boxer like dawson into a 1-2 stalker like tarver, trinadad, or pavlik (though a faster less powerful version).

    The strategy is simular to the hopkins strategy for beating 1-2 stalkers and pascal put his own twist on it with explosive flurries.

    2nd: Dawson showed his heart out there. I always knew he had more heart than people gave him credit for. He knew where he was at and went out and tried to end it and almost got the KO because pascal was so tired. Bad thing for dawson was that he was just about as tired as pascal.

    As for the head butts: I think dawson was very cautious of him running in with his head during the flurries. That pretty much happens all the time when fighters match up and fight in this way. Dawson becoming the 1-2 stalker and pascal moving around and darting in, pushing dawson off balance with his body and punches, always makes for head butts when the stalker holds his ground. I think dawson didn't receive many or any significant headbutts to prior to the last one that stopped the fight.

    As for the fight stoppage, I thought it was garbage and I can't remember any fight being stopped right at the time of the head butt/cutt. I thought it should have been dawson's choice to continue. Seeing that he didn't argue I guess he was content with the stoppage. These guys were exhausted.


    Great fight and can't wait for the rematch. AND yes I have dawson in the rematch
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    i smell a sore loser here.

    remember me? i did a thread saying i expected pascal to win, you called me an idiot and said you would laugh at me long and hard :yep:yep:yep:yep
     
  4. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Dawson didnt use his jab. Froch did. Simple as.
     
  5. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Excellent post, good to see someone thinking about things instead of getting emotional and talking rubbish.
     
  6. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I posted saying it wasn't me but then I checked and I did say that :lol: I talk **** on here because I'm bored sometimes. If you picked Pascal in the rematch I'd probably say the same thing, Dawson fought poorly and Pascal came in with a good plan and snatched the victory. Pascal didn't impress me at all, for the rematch I'll be putting alot on Dawson, hopefully can get some good odds.
     
  7. mike_bngs

    mike_bngs Active Member Full Member

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    im not a big Froch fan and do think he can look like a drunk outside the pub with those big swings he throws, but the guy has a **** load of balls and self confidence and thats why he where he is today.