Thing is Haye wanted to fight the best in the division and there is not much besides the Klitschkos, but Haye does not want to fight them. So: Haye fighting Johnson = useless and proves nothing Vitali fighting Johnson = has to fight someone and most other HWs are **** scared (especially "boxers" like Haye, Povetkin, Valuev...).
Oh I thought you were agreeing with the thread starter when you posted this. Anyways seeing that you recognize that Vitalis competition has been **** lately we agree. :good So there is no point to argue
Do you keep your true feelings to yourself about the Klits opponents for contractual reasons or just your own discretion?
Of course Johnson and Sosnowski are no world beaters, we can agree about that for sure. ...but at least the Klitschkos are fighting and not only talking.
Relax. You just got exposed. Deal with it. So wait a minute. It's not okay for Haye to fight Johnson as his first fight at HW, but it is okay for Vitali to fight Johnson? Are you out of your damn mind nuthugger? Are you out of your mind?
Yeah its better being active fighting weak competition than just sitting around and I actually look forward to the Briggs fight. It will be exiting fight for couple of rounds
@NoHome: Haye obviously always had the chance to fight better (or considering the Klitschkos the best) opposition. But for whatever reason he choose not to stand behind his words. The Klitschkos (at least in my book) seem to fight the best avaliuable. If there is nothing better to choose from than a Rahman, Sosnowski or Johnson then such a fight ist better than not fighting at all (and that is again refering to Haye)
not vitalis fault, but how many former or current champions has he fought? the guys hes mentioned never beat anyone before he fought them nor after..... gomez beat no one before nor after. arreolla just lost to a light heavyweight. kingpins biggest win was a shot 40 year old bruce seldon and hasnt fought since. hard to gauge greatness on things like that
never understand all the vitali threads being so great, wlad is 10 times better with much better opposition....and i dont care if wlad was ko'd 2 or 3 times, hes better
:good Wlad never quit and he fights his way back to the top. With Emanuel Steward he worked on his skills, he fights an eliminator, deserves his shot and he becomes world champion again. And since than he only fights mandatories or top ten fighter.
Both of the Klitschko brothers get a lot of hate. People discredit them by saying the HW division is weak and so on, honestly was the competition any stronger when Lewis was dominating? No but yet hes considered an ATG. Say what you want Vitali was beating Lewis and showed he was the better fighter and the Alpha Male. Vitali is ATG you can deny it all you want but its true.
I agree some what. A prime Vitali would probably beat Wlad hes just older now and his body isn't what it use to be. Now Wlad is better no question about it.
You are getting it all mixed up. Vitali is the guy whose eye ball was hanging out and whose face got ripped off.
wlad lose against an jorneyman purity and was 13 times on the canvas. also he gassed against brewster and was knockdown by williamson:nut! wladimir lose many rounds against brock! wlad was knockdown 3 times against peter and vitali cameback and schooles peter! vitali was never on the floor or lay back on the scorecards and fought against an atg lewis. this is why vitali get the better recognition from the boxing fans! :happy