Kessler not all that

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I thought it was American fans who rate Kessler after Ward beat a sick version of him.
    Still what active SMW has a better resume than Kessler if hes so overated
     
  2. dbouziane

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    :deal very tidy
     
  3. RAW

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    I doubt that would've happened. Green is the guy who is overrated. Kessler is overrated also, but not so much. He's a tough fighter. he hasn't fought the best names out there, but he's a good fighter.
     
  4. bailey

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    Kessler fought Calzaghe, the best SMW ever :huh. Who should Kessler have fought? Read below. What active SMW has a better resume than Kessler?
    Well?
     
  5. bailey

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    No one can answer with what active SMW has a better resume than Kessler, so how if he has the best resume, can it be thin?
     
  6. THEBODYSHOT

    THEBODYSHOT Active Member Full Member

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    Hes a great boxer and your probally a fat slob. **** you
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who is that directed at?
     
  8. The_President

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    LOL, a virtual list of ESPN caliber NOBODIES!!!
    Hardly even approaching a list for a real champion. These are well managed and crafted Euro-bums with weak and unimpressive resumes. None on the list even approach being A class, elite status. They are all B class CONTENDERS and champions who became champions by fighting B level Euro-bums.
    Take this Neo-fight logic to Dana White's site where it belongs.
     
  9. Scar

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    Are you serious with that question or is that just a typical stupid desperate response?. Let's get into it then.

    Abraham is a new SMW.

    Both Ward and Dirrell just started stepping up when they joined the tournament and both of their records combined have three fights less than Kessler's entire record.

    Froch has his share of good fights, surely a comparison can be made there already and Froch only has 27 fights in total with many years/fights ahead.

    Kessler definitely beats Bute, who also has only 26 fights in total with many years/fights coming up.

    You're asking about guys that just recently shined and are slowly building up their careers with a guy who has 45 fights and is rated like some kind of accomplished ATG by fools. Oh and that "sick" excuse, you can play that to the noobs all day long and run away with it. If he's really sick he wouldn't be allowed to fight nor will he pass the tests to be able to fight.
     
  10. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    I should have seen this post before wasting a response on you.

    Siaca, Sartison, Haussler. Porras, J C Green and Thobela? :lol:

    Good day to you man. Just whatever you do I hope you don't drink more than you already did, that's all I hope!
     
  11. rjko23

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    what a stupid thread. i know lets start a thread about how **** someone is. he got out boxed by ward fighting away with wards loud partisan crowd. the calzaghe fight was away too and that was pretty close. he beat froch who beat pascal and taylor. look he's not bad mate! i wouldnt try nick his bird!!!!
     
  12. RAW

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  13. HMSTempleGarden

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  14. bailey

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    OK so what active SMW has a better resume than Kessler.
    You avoided the question :patsch
     
  15. bataglia

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    If I'm not mistaken only three of the fighters on Bailey's list are from Europe. I think clumping people from a region - no, a CONTINENT - constisting of 700 millions of people is uneducated and downright stupid but if you want to play that game... Mundine is Australian, Siaca is too (?), Porras is South-American, Andrade is Mexican, Lucas is Canadian, JC Green is American I think, Thobela is South-African... Unless we're talking about the Bernard Hopkins atlas, you're simply wrong.

    Froch is hardly a "Euro-bum". He's beaten three good fighters in Pascal, Dirrell and Taylor who - incidentally - does NOT come from Europe.

    Sartison is a decent top ten fighter. Would probably beat Green and even Miranda. Absolutely nothing special but hardly a bum.

    Haussler is a former European champ but I agree with you there; the state of him in the Kessler fight was very poor.

    Watch the fights against Soliman, D Green and Geale and tell me Mundine isn't a good fighter. Underrated beacuse he unlikable and has recently been avoiding challenges. Since Kessler beat him handily in his hometown, I think that's a very good win. Andrade has beaten some decent C+ fighters in Tsypko, Mack and Stieglitz. Seconds away from beating p4p top 20 Bute. Kessler shut him out. That's also a very good win. The performance against Calzaghe was B+.

    I think Kessler is a good fighter who showed qualities of a very good fighter vs Calzaghe, Andrade, Froch, Siaca and Mundine but has slipped since the lay-off leading up to the Sartison fight. He clearly wasn't the same vs Sartison, Perdomo and Ward. He looked bad vs C- level Perdomo and his fans were saying that Pavlik would beat him based on the Sartison fight.

    The ones building up a picture of him as some "beast" were overrating him badly. Likewise, the ones who said he was mentally weak were also wrong. He chased Calzaghe in the 12th and refused to quit even though he was cut severely against Ward. And tellingly enough, Calzaghe's and Ward's status rocketed after they beat him. All this talk about Ward being a future p4p#1 wouldn't exist without the Kessler performance. Hell, some even said Miranda would knock Ward out...

    Kessler's adaptabiliy, predictability and stiffness is what hurts him the most, but you could also make a decent argument that he faced two of the most versatile fighters in the sport. I rated Calzaghe as p4p#1 in a brief period and Ward may very well make it too someday. What I'm trying to say is that it's not a shame losing to these two. Calzaghe is great and Ward could be, so would should you degrade a fighter as merely "decent" because he lost to A level fighters?