Floyd Mayweather Jrs Natural Boxng Ability

do you mean the boxing ability he's shown while fighting B- level competion or women?

 

Not comparable. Different style, different skills. A swarmer needs different skills to a counterpuncher, how do you say he is better? A boxer for example may use a bigger range of punches on the outside whiole a swarmer has more on the inside. Which one is better? Not comparable.

 

name these 'Great' opponents please for my amusement.

 

Those "other attributes" are also abilities. That´s why it is impossible to compare those fighters. Or at least it makes no sense.

 

Good post! Top 10 easily in my view. If we're just talking about natural talent & ability, then yes, top 10 no question!

 

On pure ability top 10.

 

I don't know if I would call it all "natural" ability. The guy probably had gloves on when he was 5 years old. From the youngest age onward he was trained by champions. His career has been carefully orchestrated to be a champion. He probably had the best trainers (outside his family) throughout most of his amateur career too. Nothing wrong with any of that. Just seems, that a lot of his skill has probably been taught.

Pacquiao on the other hand started boxing at the age of 14 in the Philipines - their sports programs in general, and boxing in particular, can certainly not compare to that of the US. And a mere 2 years later he was fighting in the pros. When he met Roach in 2001 it was probably the first time he had a real good boxing trainer.
He can't compare skill-wise with Floyd but he seems more "natural" to me. But in the last 3-4 years you can see how Roach has begun to teach him things. Subsequently he has upped his skillset.

Sergio Martinez seems to fight even more on pure instinct. A lot what he does seems fundamentally wrong, but he makes it work.

 

I still believe Pac would beat him KO.

Tho I like skills of this gay.

 

Ive said it all along and im sure other have to. Floyds has top 10 skills but not the resume. Even with pacquiao thats what the problem is. Have a look at who people put in their p4p top 10 lists and then look at the guys they fought, and how often they fought them. You have guys like Greb, Langlord, SRR in there and their resumes are amongst the best in history.

Floyd fighting pacquiao would be a good addition but after that im pretty much struggling to find a more difficult challenges for him unless he goes to the SMW tourney.

 

Hard to gauge. Top 10 easy in ability. But at the same time, how would we judge that ability had he for example lost a couple of fights to another ATG.

I cant seem to rank him above SRL in ability just because Leonard was faster and had more pop. So theres a bit of dilemma then if we dont rank SRLs ability above Floyd.

Resume top 50.

Combined Skills + Resume = Top 30s

 

i reckon definitely in the top 20. the top 10 guys have proved themselves against the actual best fighters of their time.

now for floyd he has beaten mosley, odlh, hatton, corrales but none of these have been the top of the p4p list.

if floyd can prove his skills against pacman then he is a solid top 10 in my eyes.

 

Top 20 ability
Outside 100 courage a.k.a. "urge"

 

Ability is only good when it's tested against something.

He's displayed his ability to be in the top 100 for sure.

 

he can duck
he can chicken out........ too :hi:

he can outboxed a woman too
he can lost his coURaGE