yeah I agree I would have mentioned Ali but the question I had was who would you regard as the best clincher ever? I choose Wladimir becuse of his huge size it can tire out his opponents and he has good timing with it he just needs to work on protecting himself a little bit when going out of it to not get hit with right hands. other than that hes good. that was my whole point and then people come in here with there brash opinions and it upset me