ESB Rankings debate: The Featherweight

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  1. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Prior to Gamboa's win saturday night this was the ESB top 15 at Featherweight. What would you change following that fight. Please note Chris John cannot be ranked due to inactivity. He was ESB Champ prior to being unranked.

    Featherweight (125lbs)
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    4. Rafael Marquez
    5. Celestina Caballero
    6. Orlando Salido (IBF)
    7. Daniel Ponce De Leon
    8. Cristobal Cruz
    9. Jhonny Gonzalez
    10. Daud Yordan
    11. Antonio Escalente
    12. Miguel Angel Garcia
    13. Sofiane Takoucht
    14. Bernabe Conception
    15. Juan Carlos Burgos

    WBA - title held by Chris John, unranked due to inactivity


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    robpalmer135, Sep 13, 2010
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  2. TommyV

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    He hasn't even been inactive for a year yet.

    Chris John. Excluding him is as ridiculous as excluding Mosley from the welterweight ranks pre-Mayweather was.
     
    TommyV, Sep 13, 2010
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  3. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chris John should be the Champ, and give him some time, he's out with an injury.

    1) Gamboa (IBF/WBA-regular)
    2) JuanMa (WBO)
    3) Rojas (WBC)
     
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  4. robpalmer135

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    John will have been out the ring for a year on Sunday. No point ranking him.

    Mosley was inactive for 18 months. Can you rank a guy thats been out that long. Maybe its worth putting in a rule that if a guy is champion they can be inactive for 18 months, other fighters its 1 year??
     
    robpalmer135, Sep 13, 2010
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  5. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    Chris John is still clearly the #1 in the division, even if he has been inactive for a year. A champion shouldn't be removed like that.

    EDIT: Agree with the 18 months thing
     
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  6. robpalmer135

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    Ok, How about any fighter that doesn't fight for 365 days they are removed from the rankings unless they are a belt holder (main 4 only) in which case they must fight within 550 days (18 months)

    If an ESB World Champion does not defend there title within 365 days they will be stripped of there title, and removed from the rankings if they don't fight within 550 days

    what u think?
     
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  7. jdubyah15

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    Gamboa should be No. 1, with Juanma a very close second.
     
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  8. PIPO23

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    Juan MA is number 1 and will be for a long time.I don't think anybody can take that

    dinamite in his fist.
     
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  9. PH|LLA

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    number 1 featherweight is Chris JOhn
     
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  10. robpalmer135

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    ok. basically the vote is now for who is number 2.

    Chris John has been stripped of his ESB title due to inactivity but he remains at number 1. If he doesn't fight for another 200 days he will be removed from the rankings.

    This rule will only apply to ESB Champions and not alphabet belt holders.
     
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  11. TommyV

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    JuanMa. His win over Luevano is better than anything Gamboa has done at feather. Concepcion sort of negates the fact that Gamboa has a great body of work, JuanMa has the quality so I vote for him at #2.
     
    TommyV, Sep 13, 2010
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  12. MarvellaHogg

    MarvellaHogg Newcastle 5-1 5under1and Full Member

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    This may be nit picking but IMO id put escalante top ten just shading yordan out
     
    MarvellaHogg, Sep 13, 2010
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  13. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    I agree with TommyV :deal
    (Hey wait... how's that possible? :huh)
     
    Robney, Sep 13, 2010
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  14. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Juanma is the bees knees, i rated him above gamboa before and i do now, he will expose gamboa not as a hype job but expose his flaws. When he tkes on and hopefully beats cabelero and some defences he can fight one fghter out of superfeatherweights that division has to be the weakest in boxing right now.
     
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  15. garfios

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    And jelly legs.
     
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