Lennox Lewis would've whoop Ali like he stole something

stfu NEWBIE :hi:

 

Have you seen Lennox Lewis or the Klitschko brothers? Evolution hasnt skipped boxing entirely. Just American heavyweights.

 

Lewis had ponderous footwork, yet people in here think he would be able to put his jab on someone as fleet footed as Ali? a guy who used lots of lateral movement, punched off angles, could stand on the edge of mid range using head feints trying to draw leads and countering?

Size means nothing when the target is not the same.

Lewis was too flat footed, ponderous on the front foot, if Ali drawed him out of the centre of the ring he would struggle to cut the ring down, or land his jab consistently.

 

They represent only 3 out of how many heavyweights? I'm OK saying that the Klitschkos bring something new because of how serious they are into sports science, but for the vast majority of this sport nothing has changed in athletics.

Lennox was a great fighter, but he was unique. There's no army of Lewises waiting to take the sport to the next level. There has been no evolution.

 

Peak Ali weighed a maximum of 214½lbs, but I strongly doubt that the size difference would be relevant to the outcome.
Ali would out-box Lewis to a decision, using phenomenal handspeed, lighting quick lateral movement, highly elusive unorthodox angles & an incredible workrate.

 

Lewis doesnt get that involved in head games. A lot of them have tried, it didnt get them anywhere. When lennox was stopped it was his own fault coming in fat and unprepared, underestimating his opponent and expecting an early KO win. Against his best opponents he always came in top shape and well prepared. If he was facing Ali, you have to assume Lennox would be at his best.

 

At 214 lennox would break ali in half. Eddie chambers is an Ali type fighter and he's not big enough for these heavyweights they are super heavyweights in todays boxing. Ali was good but Lennox is just too big and lennox wouldn't chase Ali Lennox fights off the back foot as well. This would make ali come forward taking chances. And if Lewis crack em with that right hand that's harder than george foremans I would love to see how he would react

 

Which still wouldn't have been good enough.

 

Haha no, a good match yes ali would of killed him.

Alis broke a prime unbeatable Foreman FFS.

 

You have a gauge that says Lewis has a harder right than Foreman?Truth be told,Lewis had a ton of trouble with a past it Holyfield,who did nothing better than Ali except MAYBE had a little more power.And shorter and slower than Ali Mercer gave Lewis all he could handle-Mercer arguably won-with his jab,by beating him to the punch with it.Ali's jab was faster and better than Mercer's.AND Ali's chin was every bit as good if not better than Mercer's.Plus,Ali's movement and angles were superior to Mercer's.I'm afraid you're underrating and underestimating Ali.Comparing him to Eddie Chambers:good.Good one.

 

Exactly, he even shook Lewis a couple of times in the rematch.

 

Holyfield has a iron chin he stood in there with big george but lennox never really cracked holyfield he out boxed him. If you remembered Holyfield had an invision where god told him he would stop Lewis in the third round.I guess Lewis beat prophecy just like he would whoop Ali.Holyfield may as well whoop Ali too I know he wouldve whoop Frazier that kick Ali's ass twice. How much did Mercer weigh for that fight. With lewis he looked pretty heavy. But Mercer had an iron chin as well. You saw what he did to Morrison

 

Ali never had any special trouble with fighters taller than him either, he won like 13 or 14 rds vs 6`6 Ernie Terrell by simply out-speeding, out-thinking & just plain out-boxing him.
I understand that Lewis is heavier & hits harder than Terrell but Ali neutralized Terrell to the point where he badly struggled to land anything clean while landing plenty of clean shots himself... eventually Terrell had to develop a Winky Wright type defence & accept he was only there to survive because he was so frustrated & Ali STILL landed more than enough on him right til the end.

Lewis hasnt got that type of defence & would likely come forward in that helpless situation, giving Ali more space for counters & flush straight right hands, Lewis might not see the final bell if he pushes himself too much but my gut tells me he loses a UD, winning only slightly more rds than Ernie did.

 

Lewis jabs Alis's head off in my opinion. I see something similar to the Larry Holmes fight, and this is at any time in Alis career.

 

Society as a whole has become bigger over time. From 1960-2003 the average American's average height and weight grew over 1 inch and 25 lbs. So let's say Ali was born the same year as Lennox, he would be 1 inch taller and 25 lbs heavier.

So when you compare Lennox and Ali's size to the average American male, they are both equally bigger than the average male for that generation.

You just have to adjust for the time period, the steroids in milk, the steroids in cow meat, pig meat, etc. You can't penalize a fighter because they fought during a generation that was smaller across the board because if that same fighter were born in this generation, they would be bigger. On the flip side if Lennox was born in Ali's era he would have been 1 inch shorter and 25lbs lighter.

See how it works? It's pretty simple actually. This isn't fight night round 4, we are talking about reality here which means you include all factors including the inflation of the human male's size.

People really don't understand how to compare athletes cross-era.


Oh and if you want to know how I obtained this information:
Average adult Americans are about one inch taller, but nearly a whopping 25 pounds heavier than they were in 1960, according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The report, Mean Body Weight, Height, and Body Mass Index (BMI) 1960-2002: United States, shows that the average height of a man increased from just over 5'8" in 1960 to 5'9½" in 2002. Meanwhile, the average weight for men rose dramatically from 166.3 pounds in 1960 to 191 pounds in 2002.


(I have a feeling I'm gonna be copying and pasting this same information about 3 times or more per week on here because these youngsters don't even really think it through.)