ESPN's updated Top 3 P4P fighters!

Why do you think Raphael is a Manny hater? :huh And why would that do anything but indicate the opposite from your perspective? I don't understand...

 

1.Pac
2. Floyd
3. Wlad

Are set in stone for me. C'mon Dan- Hopkins? P-dub? Bradley? Cotto? All damn good fighters- don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on those guys- but none of them are as dominant as Wlad is and has been for the past 5 years. If I'm thinking of, right now, the three most dominant H2H fighters in boxing, it's gotta be Pac, Floyd, and Wlad. They're the only guys who can fight (and have consistently fought) top 5, top 10 fighters in their division and make it look like the other guy doesn't have any business being in the same ring as them.

 

IT should go
Pac
Mayweather
Marquez
Martinez
Williams
Montiel
Nonito
Bradley
Ward
Wlad-Cotto

 

What I don't get is Shane was #3 before and after that loss he's not even in the top 10. JMM who had a loss to PBF, though it was pathetic not nearly as bad as Mosley is still ranked as high as 4?

What? Does someone know something they're not sharing? Why is JMM still...?

 

no it's not set in stone. are you seriously gonna tell me wlad has a better body of work than juan manuel marquez?

 

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Because Marquez wasnt dominated cause he was shot(Like Mosley). Marquez lost decisevely because he had never even fought above lightweight so not only was he fighting the faster slicker man but also the bigger stronger and harder hitting fighter . In fact he had only fought at LW twice. He was facing a disadvantage in every category. At least if Marquez was a natural welter he would have been able to impose his will,power,experience to be more competetive but because of the weight he had absolutely no chance to do anything.

WIth Mosley he has been at that weight his whole career and was though of to be the physically stronger and bigger man but yet was still dominated. He wasn even dominated in the departments he shouldnt have been.

Answer me this who looked better Marquez against Diaz II or Mosley vs Mora? Marquez is still the Man at LW where as Shane Mosely looks to be just a big name for some young hot shot to add to the resume.

 

Williams at 3 :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl thats an embarrassment.

Mayweather
Pac
JMM
Wlad
Martinez
John
Montiel
Bradley
Wonjongkam
Rafa

 

In my eyes, yes Wlad does have the better body of work over the past couple of years. I did rank JMM higher on account of better competition fought, but his age has finally caught up with him while Klitschko shows no signs of letting up. So, I flip-flopped the two on my list. I still think highly of JMM, who I rank #4.

 

Had a chat with your man in the avatar Chris John the other day at his gym.
Looking forward to get back in the ring after these couple injury setbacks before the year is out.
Also still waiting from the WBA to find out about the whole "mandatory" situation with Gamboa.

 

Nobody wanted to pay for a rematch. HBO was forcing him to rematch Martinez, and while he took a long time, he eventually signed.

 

Nice nice.

Cant wait to see him back in the ring, he doesn't get enough credit. I want to see him v Gamboa because I'm pretty confident that if he boxes as he can and doesn't get stupid he'll beat Gamboa and get the recognition he deserves.

 

Yeah same cant wait to see him back in the ring also.
Him vs Gamboa would be a terrific fight & i hope Chris can come out on top.
A real gentleman outside the ring, who is a intellegent person to speak to about boxing, follows the sport very closely & regularly watches all his rivals bouts.

 

Jmm is washed up.. sorry :-( also he had just lost and badly recently also is what 0-1-1 vs Pac and went life and death with a faded MAB.. Jmm is a good fighter i sometimes wonder if he more lives off of his reputation of close fights against pac then anything else... he is 7-3 in his last ten Wladamir has won 13 strait against mostly all top ten comp. so yeah i would rate Wlad higher right now.

 

Agreed.