After watching the vid & reading some of the shite on here by people like seinfeld or bumfelt orwhatever his name is I am praying Joe goes to America and just shuts the whingers up. Retire Hopkins & then possibly finish with Dawson or even Pavlik.......Jobs a good un.
Yeah, I'm sure you'll say that if Calzaghe wins. :roll: Just like every man and his dog were saying that Lacy was the big name he needed on his resume..... until Calzaghe owned him, then it was meaningless.
Lennox didn't, and still hasn't really, got the respect of the US public, despite beating everyone put in front of him, and not carrying on like a pork chop when he got screwed with Holy draw.
Lacy was one of his best wins, and it was the fight that made me take notice of Calzaghe. I just dont see how a win over Woods is going to do anything to help his resume, hes just the guy that lost to Jones in most peoples minds. Wether you want to admit it or not, Hopkins is the guy he needs to beat before most will give him the title of an ATG.
I think that as more due to his arrogant demeanor and his not-too-exciting style he employed later in his boxing career. When Americans are used to guys like Tyson and Holy, who put on a good show, it makes Lewis' 'cautious' style less easy to back. But you do have some tryuth there. I never liked Lewis much. But I respected the hell outta him.
I thought the Holyfield/Lewis 2 was a draw, so I think things evened out in the end IMO. I think the fact he fought guys like Holyfield and Tyson well past there primes might have something to do with it, but all in all I think most americans put him in the top 10 Heavyweights ATG list.
Ah-ha!! Gotcha! See - that is EXACTLY what you will say if Joe beats Hops. So what's the point? It's THEEEE fight Joe needs to take to "cement his legacy" according to you now, but if he wins you will be like "so what, hops was old."
I take it that by "big fights" what you really mean is "fights against household names in America".? So he has only bothered to expose one HBO hypejob. So what. In real boxing terms instead of big-name terms, that win is less impressive than some of his others against less hyped fighters.
Calzaghe needs this win for his detractors, the guys that say he never beat a great so there for he's not a great. I just think a name like Hopkins on his resume will help him, I feel its better late then never.
But don't you see? Those same guys will still say he never beat a great because Hops was old. It's a lose-lose for Joe.
Would Americans have preferred Lewis to be a drug using ******, who bites peoples ears during fights? Seriously, he would have been considered a "classy guy" if he was American. His arrogance pissed me off sometimes too to be honest. But was he more arrogant than Ali? Or many others? Lewis's cautious style really came after he reached the top. There was no excuse before that not to appreciate him before then. Ruddock, Briggs, Morrison, Mercer, Golota, Grant, hell - even the Bruno fight - were all entertaining as ****. Hell, both Rahman fights were too!!!! In fact, he was really only what you could describe as cautious in few fights to be honest. Tua for sure (but that was a boxing exhibition - something Floyd gets lauded for?????) - first Holy fight really too. Lewis boxes, and he's cautious and disparaged for it. Floyd boxes, and he's the best fighter in the world? Spot the difference?
Yeah your right, I still think the fact he has at least 1 great name on resume is better than nothing, but if he would happen to lose to Hopkins his whole career accomplishment would be in question by alot people, especially in the states.
my friend if joe fought in msg it would be a very similar scene as hattons fights. it would be full of welsh, english, scots and irish. trust me when it comes to sporting events us brits(as you yanks like to call us) have a uncanny knack of getting 60% - 80% of the tickets. dont ask me how it just happens..
How about if Joe fought in Yankee Stadium? 50,000 in Cardiff has nothing on 100,000+ that have been in Yankee Stadium. Look at the Dempsey-Tunney fights. If Calzaghe's excuse is that he can sell 50,000 tickets in Wales, then he needs to change careers, because he could easily sell more in the US. Calzaghe-Hopkins at Yankee Stadium would pack the house, I'd guarantee it.