Why is Calzaghe scared to fight in America?

there would be 20,000 brits there and you boring yanks wouldnt make a squeek compared to the atmosphere that we would produce. besides you lot wouldnt get 50,000 people to by a ticket any way.

 

I hear you, loud and clear.

There is an exagerated view of how good Bernard is at this point in his career (and I recognize his greatness, at middlewt, and his very important victory over the over-hyped Tarver at that age and weight, a victory I predicted on this forum), and a sentimmental, gut-driven wishful thinking on the part of some fans, contrary to the evidence. ( I foolisly, thought that Ali had a chance against Holmes, but I was a lot younger then).

At the same time, there is a denigration, bordering on irrational hatred, of the accomplishments of Calzaghe (Calslappy, Calpussy, etc.)

Joe can't win !

It was the same after Lacy. It was the same after Kessler.

If he beats Bernard, Bernard was over the hill, and other excuses which we've already heard regarding his previous victories.

The only reason I want to see this fight is it MIGHT silence some of Joe's critics (doubtful).

I would much rather see him fight Dawson in March and the winner of Taylor-Pavlik next summer.

These fights would do more for his legacy than beating an old man who has no record at 168 and 1-1-0 at 175, and whose most touted wins in the last five years have come against two Welterwts and a junior middlewt who themselves had next to no history at 168, much less 175.

 

It work both ways friend . . . why is Bhops scared to fight out of America?

 

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I'm guessing that post 9/11 was part of it.

That and a general fear of flying perhaps.

Along with pride saying.. I'm the champ, i'm the best in the world, you come to me.

Can't say I blame him on any of those counts.

 

really?

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:924857

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:186715

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:13095

:roll:

 

Funny reading some of these posts claiming Hopkins wants the fight and Calzaghe doesn't.
This is the 3rd time Hopkins has weaseled out of fighting Calzaghe,the first time it happened American press claimed that it must have been Calzaghe's fault because Hopkins has fought the better comp and would never avoid him,even though its well publisized what happened.The 2nd time it happened Hopkins claimed he wanted to fight a HW instead as Calzaghe wasn't good enough,Winky Wright is NOT aheavyweight.Now the 3rd time,lol.If you check the sites and opinions around the world you will see that the vast majority see this for what it is and its only in America that people really do think Calzaghe is ducking Hopkins.

 

That's not fair.

You're using FACTS to confuse them!

 

Easy, why fight in America when you can fight bums in your home turf in a fringe division and not be challenged? Thats why he'll be forgotten in a few years and guys like Jones, Wright and Hopkins will go down in history. Fights make fighters, every great fighter has a great fight you can look back on and say yep thats where he claimed legend status, Calzaghe will never have that.

 

Nice 2nd post..........!!!!
When Kessler goes on to dominate the division in the future yrs people will realise what a great victory Joe's was over him.....
As for "fringe" division ........Well that says it all really..!!!

 

Just dont bother arguging with these dicks.

Calzaghe would destroy any american fighter out there from 175 down.

Fact.

 

Your right mate. I just get drawn into it sometimes because of the pure shite that gets written here about Joe.
Joe is a victim of his own ability , This added to the fact he was about 5yrs to late in coming on the scene & a greedy self obsessed **** of a manager has meant he has'nt the resume his ability deserves. The big american names in their prime kept well away as Joe , the fella america hadnt heard of from wales , was too dangerous & at the time the risk far outweighed the reward for them...:?
If the fight with Bhop happens Joe will win which hopefully would leave a last hurrah with Dawson or Pavilik before retiring & shutting a few knobs up in the process...:good
The sad part is that purely based on his unbeaten record if he was from the states he'd have had a statue built now of himself in his hometown...atsch

 

He has more to gain than to loose by fighting in the U.S in terms of his legacy for boxing, and even financially.
He answers questions about whether he really is the best in the world. But you say why must he fight competition in the U.S - The biggest money making boxing fights (including purses and PPV buys) have taken place in the U.S. In addition, boxers who were considered best of their era all fought in the U.S at one time or another, whether they were American natives or not (i.e. Lennox Lewis). Just look at the situation with Ricky Hatton. Do you think he would have gotten the opportunity to fight the best pound for pound fighter if he stuck to only fighting in the U.K??? Ricky did he what he had to do, won impressively against Castillo, now he has a mega fight for big $$$$. In addition, he has the opportunity to knock off (whether you think he will win or not) the top pound for pound fighter.

OK, so he is champion already. But if he really had the desire to seal his legacy and really show people that he is as good as he, his fans, and his record say he is, then why doesnt he take care of sealing his own legacy, making sure he goes down in history as the best of his era within his weight class. Just look at how Lennox Lewis is viewed in history. People dont really question how good he was...they just know he was best during his era.

By fighting only in the U.K, this gives the impression (which could be a false one) to many American boxing fans, especially because they haven't seen enough of Calzhage, that perhaps he is not as confident in his abilities as he, his fans, and his record say.

 

hardly one hopkins sacrifices is it.