Should AA be banned?

Hell no on the banning.

I'm surprised booradley didn't start this dip**** thread.

 

Yeah...and zorrita should support lorenzo for life...u r an idiot!...sorry.

 

NO NO AND NO!!!

He got already punished, he got DQ. What with all you people? Get off Abraham, seriously. He made ONE little mistake. I said ONE. That was a weak little arm punch. Anyone who believes that Dirrell has neurological problems because of that foul has below average IQ.

You can believe Dirrell has problems, fine. But you cannot blame Abraham forever because of ONE mistake he made during a fight. That's boxing. Fouls and all sorts of things happen. You choose to box you have to accept that you get hurt.

That's a way for Dirrell to widthraw from the fight that's all. No need to debate anymore.

 

It was merely a split second natural reaction and here are some similar kos



[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc-G4KMOllU[/ame]
Hmm @ 6:30 Mclellan actually hits Benn numerous times while benn is down on the bottom rope


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX8UoRpsrRY[/ame]


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6gqdwVBcCY[/ame]


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VawHgrLvbD4[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aObt8qq09Q[/ame] Then there was Haye and Barret both punching each other while they were down.

 

Abraham did not throw that punch on purpose (imo), he didn't know Dirrell was on one knee. At this point in the fight it seemed AA was starting to gain some control. He dropped Dirrell with a good punch (that didn't count) and Dirrell looked like a shook fighter after that point.

It was an accident, I don't think Abraham meant to do that.

 

Anyone who thinks Abraham should be banned best feel the same way about Margarito and should never even considering buying any of his future PPV fights.

If you truly think Abraham should be banned, boxing has no place for a "fan" like you.

 

Obviously NOT. There has been way worse fouls over the years. If Dirrell is this fragile he should be retiring, as it is I do not want to see him in the ring again, damaged goods. Anyone agreeing with the idea that they can pin point the punch legal or illegal that did the damage is a complete idiot. Thanks for your time.

 

Good forensic imaging is definitely in order here. I'd be interested in learning how video can decipher the ballistics of the punch and how it relates to angle of the puncher's and punchee's bodies, what part of the glove made contact, the audio of the impact, the "normal" reactions to damaging blows. I mean do fighters really react like Dirrell after they are seriously injured? Heck, this forensics could even lead to power comparisons between modern fighters and fighters from the past.

 

AA should not be banned nor face any punishment beyond his DQ loss, but you cannot be seriously defending those blatantly illegal punches. They were just as careless and illegal as what Golota did to Bowe's nut sack. Also, I don't think there's any reason to question Ward's brain damage, as he was one of the favorites to win this tourney. He likely stands to lose money and potential popularity by bowing out as well. Odds are that AA's punches are what caused or or at least contributed to his current problems. As far as we know Ward's brain was fine before that fight and he certainly had no symptoms that would stop him from fighting. After that fight he's having brain problems, so its reasonable to conclude AA's punches had something to do with this. Odds are they either caused or contributed to his problems.

 

no. i dont think dirrell can bring himself to fight his dear friend.

 

No but you should be banned for starting such an appalling thread.atsch
****ing moron do us all a favour and never darken this forum again with your utter BS threads :deal
***** :deal

 

This article with Dirrell's uncle is a bit more detailed than most others I've read...

Leon Lawson Jr., the uncle and co-trainer of super middleweight (168 pounds) contender Andre Dirrell, with Dirrell's grandfather, Leon Lawson Sr., spoke to FanHouse on why the Flint, Mich., native has withdrawn from his scheduled Nov. 27 title bout against WBA king Andre Ward, of Oakland, Calif., as well as from the tournament in general with what his promoter, Gary Shaw, called a "neurological problem."

The younger Lawson attributed Dirrell's issues to the head injuries resulting from Dirrell's 11th-round disqualification victory in March over hard-hitting Arthur Abraham (31-1, 25 knokouts) of Germany, who hit Dirrell (19-1, 13 KOs) in the head when the fighter was down.

Dirrell rose on unsteady legs after having slipped, and, been subsequently, pounded while he was on the canvas by Abraham's vicious, downward-swooping right hand.

FanHouse: Why is Andre Dirrell pulling out of the tournament?

Leon Lawson Jr.: We respect the game of boxing, and we just want Andre to be at 100 percent. You know, this problem was really something that he had been kind of hiding from us for a while, and he may have been in denial of some things.

But, you know he did finally come clean and let us know how he was feeling. So when he did that, we took it very seriously. As a team, we all came together and we went and got him the proper care. We went and we had him examined and checked out by a neurological surgeon.

You know, we respect the game of boxing enough and we respect the opinion of the doctors that we should, you know, sit back and not allow any our our egos or his ego get in the way. That can be real trouble for him.


Do you believe that the injury was a result of what happened in the fight with Arthur Abraham?

I mean, at this time, we think that is so, yes. Because Andre hadn't had any problems before that fight. The whole world saw the punch, and it caught Andre off guard. I was worried that night after the fight. Andre ended up complaining about it and things like that.

But we hoped and thought that it was something that would get better with time, you know? But it hasn't. So, really, there is nothing for us to do but sit back on it and wait for his condition to be back at 100 percent.


How did Andre's symptoms initially begin to manifest themselves?

Well, he was experiencing headaches and dizziness. Periodically, those two things would just occur. That's how the symptoms first began to come about.


How many doctors have you seen since the symptoms first surfaced?

We've seen two doctors.


What sort of conclusions have they drawn or come to?

Well, they did MRIs and CAT scans. That's what they did. They found that he was still concussed from the punch and the injury in the fight. They recommended that Andre be at least three months symptom-free before they would even consider giving him the go-ahead to go back into the ring.


Has Andre been able to spar since the symptoms began?

Not at all. We haven't been in the gym since the Arthur Abraham fight. To tell you the truth, Andre is the heaviest that he's ever been. That's something that we're looking at also. Andre is walking around at around 190-something.

That's something, because Andre usually walks around at just around 170-something or close to 180. Like I said, he has not sparred since before the Arthur Abraham fight. We thought that he would get better by the next time that he got into the ring.

But, you know, Andre kept it a secret for a while from us, and then, we monitored it for a while and he said that it was still happening, so we had no choice but to come out with it.


Was there a moment of truth where everyone on the team sat down with Andre to decide that this was the move that you all had to make?

That was the whole reasoning for us coming to the conclusion that we can't continue in the tournament. I don't want Andre to think that we have any doubt about his abilities or to put any doubt in his mind that we don't believe in him.

I don't want to speak that way. We are just going to wait until we can see him back at 100 percent, and of course, we're going to respect what the doctors say. And then, we'll go from there.


Where does Andre go from here as far as further examinations to determine his future with this neurological issue?

We have had him checked out, and as a result of the tests that they ran, they didn't feel like Andre was fit to fight. He doesn't want Andre sparring or anything like that or having any contact at all. They say that it's fine if he works out, but without contact.

As much as we want to see him fight, we're going to respect what the doctors have said to us. Out of respect for what the doctors have said, you know, this is his life that we're talking about. This is not only my fighter who I am training, but this is my nephew and my family.

This is a man who has a wife and kids, so for him, it's bigger than the sport of boxing.


What message do you have for anyone who may believe that Andre's injuries are not genuine?

Just go take a look at the last fight and look at the punch that he was hit with and you can see that that punch was deliberate. Andre was not looking for it nor was he expecting it. The man was defenseless. He never saw the punch coming.

It's like being in a car accident, really. We just want the fans to know that we will be back when Andre is 100 percent. We thank everybody for sticking buy us as fans, and for everything. We wish everybody the best among the guys who are still in the Super Six tournament.

The final thing, again, that we want to say about his career is that he will be back. We don't know how soon, and that's what we all have our fingers crossed about. We hope that it's sooner rather than later. He's not lost his mind or anything.

There are just some things that we are concerned about and that's why we have gone and had him looked at.
So, it's nothing to be super-alarmed about. There are few things about his behavior that just aren't the same.

Take what you want from that, but it does seem he has had MRI's and CAT scans done related to the issue.

 

He slipped in the same corner you limey ******. In the 7th round. Watch the goddamn fight next time scum bag.

 

Have you got a hard on for me? You follow me around. I thought I'd have schooled you enough times, you'd stay away.

Regardless, we know that Dirrell chooses to go down. It was inevitable that someone would hit him when he was down sooner or later. He should have followed rule number 1: protect yourself at all times.

 

The important words out of that whole article.