Dan Rafael's Haye-tred

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  1. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    when you mentioned the racism thing another pole attacked me about east london being one of the most racist places to live...:patsch
     
  2. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd love to see Haye plant a right hand on Dans three chins.
     
  3. hagman1989

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    to be fair if you read twitter your in turn a total wanker
     
  4. madballster

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    Really? So Haye takes 10 rounds to TKO a 38 year old washed up John Ruiz who was knocked through the ropes 14 years prior by Tua... And the same Haye then goes to knock out a HGH and roid enhanced 38 year old over-the-hill version of Briggs?

    Oh please.

    Why do you Haye defenders *ALWAYS* have to argue how much faster Haye would KO all of the Klit opponents?

    * "Haye would KO Chambers inside 8"
    * "Haye would KO Arreola inside 5"
    * "Haye would KO Briggs inside 8"
    etc. etc. etc.

    Sounds kinda ridiculous .. just as dumb as the Klit fans saying how Wlad would knock out Ali in 1.
     
  5. hagman1989

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    so you dont think haye would have realised theres nothing coming back from briggs and just unload ? thats what haye does he goes for the kill with one exception in his whole carear , thats why people say those things , vitali should have put his foot on the gas and ended that sham and its hayes nature to do just that
     
  6. TFFP

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    Haye would have knocked out Briggs though, Ruiz was always defending himself. Briggs actually had zero defence for at least 6 rounds as far as I can see. There was a point where he struggled to muster the energy to hold his hands up.

    He should have been KO'd, somebody with more explosive power would have done it. Vitali never threw anything but a right hand that even Briggs could see coming, a left hook that he didn't see could have broken him down.
     
  7. TFFP

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    Vitali would have won a UD over Ruiz guaranteed. Wouldn't have knocked him down either.
     
  8. theboy_racer

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    Dan Rafael is a bitter and obviously clueless Klitschko arselicker, thats all there is to it.
     
  9. lirva

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    Haye is a joke in America due to his percieved ducking of both Klitschkos. Calling them out, then running for the hills and the pulling out of fights and fighting valuev, Ruiz and Fraudley.
     
  10. clyde

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    :**** Dan Rafael
     
  11. dftaylor

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    Hang on – you’re talking about Ruiz like he was constantly getting stopped. He has two losses by KO - one to Tua and one to Haye FOURTEEN YEARS APART! Rather than prove your point, it’s proved the opposite.

    And the point about Tua – considering Ruiz went on to win world titles and Tua did precisely nothing, I think we can safely write that win off as a lucky KO.

    I’m pretty sure Haye would have gotten Briggs out of there. He would have been more competitive with Chambers and Arreola simply down to size and styles. But Haye’s a banger, he always looks to knock the other guy out. Only two of his wins have been by decision: once when he boxed to orders, the other against Valuev with a broken hand.

    What I don’t understand is Klit fans claiming beating Briggs has anything to do with how he’d look against Haye.
     
  12. robpalmer135

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    Your Klitscko bias is unreal.
     
  13. THEBODYSHOT

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    Haye is a puss thooooooooo
     
  14. harvinmagler

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    Rafael is a **** who just jumps on any bandwagon, if he can be considered a journalist then so can most people on esb
     
  15. ryanm8655

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    The reason people say it is because it's true.

    Neither of the Klits tend to really go for the kill, neither are explosive, Haye is.

    I think Haye could beat Vitali with a fairly similar game plan to the Valuev, moving in and out and using his speed. He would need to be more active though.

    Wlad I'm not sure on, it just depends if Haye can get passed that jab.

    As for Adamek, I think Haye would probably knock him out tbh.