i dont think he was that good in the first place..and it seems like all of Stewart's fighters regress once he trains them
Problem with Estrada was he didn't have a lot of power(still stunned kermit several times though) despite all the haymakers he was landing and the same goes for Feliciano tonight. Imagine if Cotto or Margo landed all those shots that Estrada hit Cintron with.
WOW, its nice to finally hear some one give Marshall and I some credit. Let me address the hand first. Kermit injured his hand as an amateur. It was operated on 3 times by the famous Dr. Charles Melone before finally being properly diagnosed and repaired by Dr. Kulp in Philly. Kermit fought 24 fights with hand problems and got 22 ko's. After the Teddy Reid fight it was all down hill for Kermit. If any of you have his fight with Reid available watch it. I think if you do you will see a much better fighter then he was given credit for at the time of that fight. He took some shot in that fight that have ko'd heavyweights in sparring. (sparring videos in Tom Yankellos camp that Teddy showed me persoanlly. KO'd 2 heavyweights while wearing 18 oz gloves n headgear.) Look at his punchs in the Ortiz and Reid fights. All fast, all hard. Devestating ko's n knockdowns in both fights against guys that were Ring Mag. rated TOP 10. As for th Margarito fight... well when you are focussed on nothing but your new girlfriend and not your training you get a performance like you all saw. He was routinely late for training, quit workouts, quit sparring sessions early, quit runs, and totally neglected his normal strength training routine. Since moving to Steward he has had four fights against four tough club fighter type guys and gone life and death with 3 of them. Been hurt many times, and seems to have lost the one punch knockdown power. All you hear is how much better Cintron is under Manny. BULL****! I can promise you this... Kermit wouldnt have strugdled in his fights had he stayed with us and continued to do the things that got him to the point he was at for the Teddy Reid fight. When he was with us he scarcely lost a round let alone come close to losing to clubfighters. He couldnt drop a guy that was ko'ds by light hitting 140lb fighters. Yeah Kermits better under Manny just like Jermaine was!
That's gold. Manny is ****ing useless, he has no faith in his fighters and no real game plan, it seems like he is bored out there and it is a real chore to talk to his fighters between rounds, not good for his fighters confidence and sense of self-worth. In the fight, about the 5th round when Cintron comes back to the corner Manny says something like, 'uh we don't know how long he can keep up the pace' while looking around confused and tells him to fight on the inside. So Cintron goes out and does that, what he's been doing and gets beaten in that round aswell so then Manny tells him to box on the outside atsch Manny doesn't know or care what's going on it seems like.
Cintron sucked ass! No two ways about it:nono Yes Feliciano's tough, but Cintron's gonna have lots of problems at WW:yep He damn sure aint beating Williams:rofl They are so very LUCKY he got exposed against Feliciano and not Williams. I bet they try to pull out:yep There's no way in hell Cintron will land enough of his power shots to beat Williams. Williams has superior defence, a great southpaw jab, and at least twice the volume
Yeah RIGHT He didnt fight all that much better on the outside either:nono Look Williams has D and a much better jab and high volume attack. Williams is gonna take Cintron 2 School:good Believe Cintron's opponents saw something tonight:yep EVEN Feliciano said " I lost, but I wasnt the one lying on theground at the end"
It's great to hear insight from an insider to get an idea of what was actually going on. What I can't understand is what was going through Cintron's head and happened to his dedication when the biggest fight of his career was on the horizon? Did he really expect Margo to just fall down on the first big punch landed and stay down for the count? I'm curious about what Kermit will do/say when he loses badly to the next elite fighter he faces? Blame his hand again or maybe Steward and switch trainers/teams once more?
Cintron clearly broke his right hand money maker in the first or 2nd round. I saw him hit that guys block head and he shook off his hand like he broke it and from then on out he stopped throwing it. I know Cintron can't handle pressure well at all but you can't really say hes totally garbage because thats like telling Wladamir Klitchko to fight without his right cross. When you punch THAT HARD you can't keep throwing a broken fist as if the pain would be manageable because it isn't. If Cintron never had hurt his right he woulda KO'd this cat early. I've never seen Cintron throw that many left hooks in my entire life and I've followed his entire career. His power is for real and I just think just because of his power he has a shot with everyone but Mayweather, I just don't think he can touch Mayweather.
I question whether he really broke his hand in the sense that I didn't hear any discussion about it in the corner in between rounds. Also, he threw the right from time to time and he kept hitting Feliciano with bombs but the guy just wouldnt go away. Like other people have said, he needs to change his mentality and realize not everyone he faces will go to sleep and he needs to come up with other strategies when plan A fails. I think what he lacks is natural instincts to adjust in fights, thats why he freezes up like a mummy. he seemed really shocked, frustrated, and upset in between rounds the fact that Feliciano wasn't budging. He lucked out against David Estrada and Feliciano the fact that they are only tough guys and don't really have a threatening offense. But we saw when he fought a tough guy who could hit back (Margarito). One thing I noticed, Im not sure if others noticed, but Cintron looks drained & pale last night. I noticed it immediately when he was walking into the ring. Ive seen him before, but he is looking like he is outgrowing this weightclass. He looks like a muscular cadaver...u can see it in his face, it just doesnt look natural. Regardless of his deficiencies, he can put some very nice combinations together and he has good hand speed, in addition to the power that he has at that weight class. I think a good match up for him would be Andre Berto. It would be a good test for both, but I think Berto would beat him down...yet Bertos chin is in the shaky/questionable list, so it would pay for an entertaining fight IMO.
Let me tell you that everything I stated was the absolutly truth. No embelishment what so ever. I also left out the fact that we had just renegotiated Kermits promotional contract with Main Events. We got him a 120K resigning bonus right up front, and a gaurantee of 4.5 million over the next two years even if Main Evets didnt get him fights which would force them to promte him more heavily and most likey increase his earnings beyond the 4.5 million gaurantee. Once again thanks for giving us a little bit of credit. We started Kermit boxing as an amateur at 19 yrs old. By 24 he was 24-0 with 22 kos as a pro and was on the verge of greatness, and all it took was a woman and down the tubes he went. As I said earlier about the hand. He fought all his fights with hands problems. There was a time when he was a beast, but those days ended with Margarito. No trainer can fix whats wrong with Kermit... well maybe the wizard of oz could!
I heard what you said Cintron's getting beat ON THE OUTSIDE vs Williams and after kermit gets tired and starts trying to hold on? On the inside too! Cintron has good right hand power but must be in range to land it, the half assed slipping he attempted vs Feliciano's pawing, face forward attack? Is going to get him shutout or beat bad, it was very unimpressive. There's a few WW's out that will beat the man we saw last night, BEILIEVE IT!!!
Many men have went down the wrong path chasing women, another sad song:-( Cintron was EXPOSED bad last night. He cannot fight inside:nono Only person who can change any of it? Is Kermit himself!! I see him having big trouble with several WW's.
I can imagine how the team must have felt after working with Kermit since his amateur days only to have him fire all of you over a loss then move on to a trainer with a bigger name. I think the question on everyone's mind is whether Cintron always had a problem with mental weakness(but never exposed yet) even before the Margo fight or was it only after getting hurt and knocked down that he developed such an issue? Were you at all shocked on how things turned out in that fight? Perhaps you can shed some light on this issue that people have often speculated about.