In 2004, Bernard Dunne vs Naz Hamed.. who wins?

Big Bernard Dunne fan,was there when he won the title in one of the best fights of the decade,this fight would never have happened in 2004,the best of Naz vs the best of Dunne wouldnt go 3 rounds,Naz by brutal knock out,you cant have a weak chin if your going up against Naz..

 

This is the second thread today I have seen with you taking cheap shots at Dunne. Have an axe to grind do we???

Look Naz was a great fighter. A fantastic fighter, who in my opinion is underrated. A lot of people try discredit Naz because of the Barrera loss. He lost to Marco Antonio Barrera: God he must be terrible. No, he had an absolutely terrific career.

And yes, a prime Naz would have likely ran through Dunne. But to go with your scenario, it wouldn't be a prime Naz. It would be Naz coming back from a couple of years lay off. Naz looked a long way from his best against Manuel Calvo in his last fight. None of us have any idea what type of fighter he would have been after the time out of the ring. A lot of guys arent the same when they come back.

Bernard Dunne was a WBA and European champion and nobody can take that away from him. The fact that he might come up short against a great fighter like Hamed is nothing to be embarrassed by anyway.

 

Naz KO 1st round

 

Lets be honest, you just went on a diatribe about how nobody is Dunne bashing, but then insisted on trying to discredit his title win in the very next line.

I just don't see the point in it to be honest. Dunne is retired. The mention of him in these threads served no other purpose that to undermine his career. What was his relevance to a topic about Ken Egan turning pro exactly? They both happen to be Irish. The similarities end there. Egan was and is a good amateur fighter. Dunne was a good (not as accomplished as Egan) amateur and also a good pro fighter(something Kenny has no experience at). It's not comparable.

Why make such an effort to belittle the guy? Nobody ever claimed Bernard was a surefire hall of famer. He was a good pro who had a very successful career.

 

Dunne defended the belt against Poonsawat on sep 29th

Cabbalerro last defended that belt on 26th august, Poonsawat beat dunne who got beat by Ryol li lee who is now the "offical wba champ" so Dunne was the WBA champ in my eyes and like every other holder of IBF , WBA , WBC and WBO belts he was just another "paper champ".

 

I absolutely hated Naz with a passion. To this day I can't stand the little *****.

I would however say he was not just a hype job and has some excellent wins against better opposition than say a fighter like Ricky Hatton fought.

Naz was good but Barrera was better. I neary started believing in God again that night.


Dunne wasn't in Naz's league but an older Hamed with the confidence knocked out of him might not have been a great force. That's probably why he never made a comeback.

 

What exactly is the basis.

And with regard to your other point, see moorser point. I pretty much echo what he said. It was no less a title than any other alphabet belt. wba like to insist on having a super champion; that's their prerogative and not Dunne's fault.
Cabbalerro had lost to Cordoba and is too busy chasing Gamboa around to defend his super bantam title.

We could go back on forth on this all day so i will leave it at that.

 

Dunne kept his head and got the most from his talents, Naz lost the head and squandered his talent. Naz was way more skillful but I would happably wager the Dunne is more content with how his career went.

 

naz with ease

 

wtf??

 

nazeem inside 3

 

How can you possibly know that Egan would have been a better pro than Dunne? How do you know he would have had the right mentality and confidence needed to make it as a pro, two things Dunne most certainly had. There have been many instances where a great amateur did not make it in the pro ranks, look at Paul Griffin and Michael Carruth, both were better amateurs than Dunne (who was no slouch himself) but they did not get as far as him as professionals, so to say that Egan would have been better is mere speculation.