what are each coaches good at?

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  1. Gaz S

    Gaz S Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Though I've never been a fan of his methods, I have to say Enzo Calzaghe was a very good motivator, especially for Joe. May not have given the best technical advice, but he managed to inspire and motivate Joe to 46 wins.

    It also comes down to boxer-trainer chemistry. You can have an awesomely talented boxer and a superb trainer, but if they don't gel, it isn't happening. Enzo had the right "connection" with Joe.
     
  2. TommyV

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    Who is Ronnie Shields training nowadays?
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    McGirt did not suddenly invent Gatti into a boxer though, Gatti started his career as a pretty sound stand-up boxer-puncher. He turned boxer for the Patterson fights and turned puncher for nearly every other fight after that, with the occasional boxing performance thrown in.

    McGirt just brought out the boxer again, which I'm not too sure was that good of thing, really. I'm a great believer in natural instincts, they are there for a reason, why try and change them? It is about honing them IMO, think Duran and Brown & Arcel, they just made Duran better rounded whilst keeping his natural instincts, same with Ali and Dundee.

    A trainer shouldn't train a fighter into a set way of fighting, they should gently ease them into honing there instincts and providing the tools they need to follow their instincts.

    Again, Cotto's natural style was one of a pressure fighter and again I think that is where he is most effective. It was working why change it? (Although Stewart wasn't to blame for it) I do feel Stewart will deviate from the pressure fighter role and turn Cotto more boxer.

    Rigo.
     
  4. Relentless

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    rigo
    cintron
    juan diaz
    rocky juarez
    erislandy lara
    trained adamek for arreola
     
  5. Relentless

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    if you look at gatti boxing before mcgirt he wasn't great at it, he knew how to do it but not great, buddy taught him better head movements, shoulder roll etc.
     
  6. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Not much really. His outboxing of Patterson is better than anything else he did, whilst in boxer mode. You got to remember Patterson was world class, it is easy to box against lesser opponents.
     
  7. TommyV

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    Cheers. Doesn't exactly have a top quality stable there though in my opinion, he probably deserves the chance to train a few bigger names.
     
  8. Relentless

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    yeah but in the past he has trained some great fighters including evander holyfield, pernell whitaker, vernon forrest, mike tyson for 2 fights or so, also not so great but very good fighters such as david tua, jesus chavez and juan lazcano.
     
  9. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Shields hasn't really had that much of a ''break'' in my opinion, though his achievements with Diaz have been overshadowed by a bad run since losing his 0.

    His corner isn't helped by generally having the most **** poor cutmen in every big fight.....
     
  10. Relentless

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    shields also isn't a very good cornerman himself, a great trainer but not a great cornerman.

    a great corner man is freddie roach or tommy brooks, they keep it calm and tell the fighters small things they can do, nothing too big or the fighters will get confused.
     
  11. TommyV

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    I would also say Steward is an offensive coach. If you look at the likes of Wlad, his offense is his defence. He will typically train a taller fighter to defend himself with his jab and via controlling the distance, i.e, more offensively-minded areas.
     
  12. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Yep.... I can't think of any Steward fighters that were defensive masters.

    Lewis, Hearns and others were often difficult to catch clean because they used their height and reach to keep the opponent off them or catch the shots off the meaty end shall we say.

    His fighters are generally more patient but often dish out pretty bad beatings.....
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Stewart coached the Olympic team of Holyfield, Whittaker, Taylor etc...

    o Stewart did train a superb defensive master in Whittaker, although it was breifly.
     
  14. Relentless

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    johny tocco's - eddie mustafa muhammads gym

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq_gw8d0_K8[/ame]
     
  15. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Yes.....

    Mark Breland was Hearns' main sparring partner for the Duran fight.

    I think he said it was the best camp they ever had..... and no wonder :yep

    Duran was lucky to make it out of the first round :nut