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Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by mrtony80, Oct 30, 2010.


  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    pacquiao will be regarded as a top 10 ATG by the time he retires and boxing historians will be kind to him.

    mike tyson starches ali.

    hamed ducked luisito espinosa.
     
  2. luciuslim

    luciuslim Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i dont know why but i agree with this.:huh
     
  3. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    Could be the case...
     
  4. MagicMan91

    MagicMan91 The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    I can't help that I have the same dimensions as Hearns or Williams, it's a gift and a curse :hey

    Suffocated anyone in the back of your van lately? :cool:



    James Toney isn't fat, he's just big boned
     
  5. luciuslim

    luciuslim Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A prime Hagler vs a Prime Hopkins would have been an all time great fight.
     
  6. luciuslim

    luciuslim Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Current Shane Mosley would still give Manny a very hard fight, although Manny would still win.
     
  7. Predicto

    Predicto Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Michael Moore got paid to take a dive for big George.
     
  8. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Aaron Pryor CHEATED against Arguello (Both fights)
    "Black Bottle" & "Plaster/Un-Padded Gloves" via Panama Lewis!!
     
  9. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Close, competitive fight. If you are going to claim Tua got robbed, then you are the one who never saw the fight. The point remains that if you slug it out with Ibeabuchi and it's close, what chance do you have against the likes of Frazier?

    When did I say there were similarities between there styles? The point I'm making is that Tua was completely lacking in technical ability overall compared to somebody like Frazier, who is woefully under-rated in skill terms.

    Er, yeah, I have seen it as a matter of fact. Rahman boxed circles around Tua for the most part and got robbed. Again, showing up for Tua's lack of technical skill overall. And Rahman may have caught him a split second after the bell with that left-hook, but Tua was still fighting at that point. It was a legit knockdown, he just didn't get it before the bell.

    Once again, that was not prime Tua.[/quote]

    And? So his punch resistance declined significantly by that point did it? If Barrett and Rahman can drop Tua, Frazier can drop and hurt Tua. Remind me when Tua's prime was exactly. The guy didn't even have a prime.

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    How exactly is Tua going to beat Frazier? Enlighten me. Frazier is woefully under-rated in terms of his overall skill. He has superior punch placement to Tua, his timing is better, he's got a better jab than Tua, his body work is better than Tua's, his range control and judge of distance is better than Tua's. Defensively, he's harder to hit clean than Tua.

    In terms of physical strength he's under-rated. When was Frazier ever really beaten for physical strength, other than against probably the strongest heavyweight of all time physically in George Foreman? A prime Tua has got 15/20lbs on a prime Frazier, but Frazier hadn't people like he was 15/20lbs bigger. He's not going to get backed up on the basis of a lack of physical strength.

    What's more, he's got a vastly under-rated chin. Look at some of the punches he took from Foreman in Kingston, yes he got destroyed, but Foreman landed some hard, clean shots, sometimes 2 or 3, and Frazier stayed up at times before others put him on the canvas.

    He has a height and reach advantage aswell, for what it's worth. And it could be worth a lot because Frazier could actually box from the outside. Not on the backfoot, but he could hook from the outside and land it and jab from the outside on his way in. If Tua tries to trade left-hooks all night with a prime Frazier, he's going to end up on his back.
     
  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fighting Weight is a fair-minded, unbiased poster who posts on a wide range of boxing topics and does his part to keep the GF toll-free.
     
  11. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sheila Hearns and Olivia Williams, presumably :p

    I do not suffocate hookers in the back of my van. I traded it for a convertible, with the roof down there's more room :smoke
     
  12. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I never realised there ever was a toll to enter the GF but if there ever was I'm glad I'm fighting it, despite being unaware of the fact.
     
  13. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Lucia Rijker and Ann Wolfe punch harder than Floyd.
     
  14. bez

    bez Active Member Full Member

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    Hearns would have beat hagler if he didnt get that leg massage before thbe fight and if he didnt break his right hand in the 1st rnd. He also would have beat leonard if he came in at 147. Im not a hearns fan or anything.
     
  15. wvucheerjr

    wvucheerjr Active Member Full Member

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    p4p i think i believe this. could you imagine rjj-ali? ali wasnt a big heavyweight and by todays' standards was a flat out small one early in his career. no way in anyones imagination rjj ko's ali or probably even knocks him down but I honestly think prime for prime he could outpoint him. in his prime Jones was basically unhittable.