ross enamait help

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by younghypnotiq, Nov 10, 2007.


  1. younghypnotiq

    younghypnotiq Boxing Addict Full Member

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    alright i have all o his books buta ll his programs have you only box like 2-3 a week and i usualy go 5x so can i stil do the workout? just do some of the things ona boxing day
     
  2. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Perhaps you can incorporate some of the stuff in your boxing workout. Otherwise I'd concentrate on boxing, conditioning is rather sports specific IMO.
     
  3. Bobby

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    seige why cant you do the conditioning 4 days in a row?

    ross has done a great job helping bringing boxing out of the dark ages with its crude training methods
     
  4. pudding

    pudding Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah, that is absolutely right. If you can't box you will get your head punched in no matter what kind of shape you are in. Conditioning is important but there is no point turning it into a religion.
     
  5. pudding

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    Proper conditioning is important to any sport, however in modern boxing phony conditioning has become a surogate for proper training. Old fashioned boxing training, that you will see in Joe Frazier's book Box like the Pros, tends to be a bit boring. Young guys these days aren't willing to endure tedious training so they spend most of their time in the weight room having fun and getting pumped up. That is why you see so many poorly skilled boxers these days. Muhammad Ali didn't need to pump iron and you don't need to either.
     
  6. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, all these young boxers are crap because they lift weights... No.

    If you don't like strength training then whatever, but don't go saying it's BS because it doesn't work for you or boxers of the past didn't do it.
     
  7. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Boxing" work is most important:
    Sparring, hitting the heavy bag, working the mitts, training on skills...

    If any other excerice you are doing makes it so that you are not able to put your all into these basic "boxing" activities, then you should cut back. To be honest, if you are doing your bag and mitt work with intensity, that should lead to very good conditioning (along with some roadwork of course).

    All other work is supplimental. Strength training will help you, high intesisty conditioning will help you, aerobics will help you, taking tap dance lessons will help you...but these things are suppliments, they should be done in tangent and not in place of classic boxing work.
     
  8. average_joe

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    Take your *****, while it's semi-erect, wrap it around back of your testicles, then try to push it into the wide-open buttcrack. You may find that you grow to full erection in the process, at which point you will be forced to stop and wait a few minutes before you try again. Remember, practice makes perfect!
     
  9. pudding

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    I think young boxers today confuse real boxing training with fun in the weight room. Anybody can pretend they are engaged in so called "strength training" but there is no evidence that boxers have benefited from it. There are only so many hours in a day which can be devoted to training, you get to chose how you want to waste them. How you perform in the ring opposite a credible opponent will be expose the true value of your training methods. Anybody can spew out theories, but results speak louder than words.
     
  10. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Well said.

    Indeed. And again, if only one small minuscule variable is missing from the equation, your entire theory is 100% bull****.
     
  11. pudding

    pudding Active Member Full Member

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    My theory? :huh

    My so called "theory" was used by Jack Dempsey and Gene Tunney nearly a hundred years ago, and is used by Joe Calzaghe today. If you put 100% bull**** in your garden you will get good tomatoes.
     
  12. JIm Broughton

    JIm Broughton Active Member Full Member

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    I think Pudding has hit the proverbial nail on the head in regards to training. If you want to train the right way then learn from the best, the fighters themselves. Look at the conditioning of men like Marciano, Frazier, Ali, Hagler and others who fought in the 15 round era and gave it thier all for 3 minutes a round. How did they do it before the advent of so-called modern training methods? They did it with good old fashioned hard work that's how. Is'nt it funny how many of these modern day fitness gurus never boxed a day in their lives yet know exactly what it is a fighter needs to be succesful in the ring? Or how many of these trainers had to quit boxing due to an injury but can perform workouts that few people can match? Could it be that that these very same trainers just were'nt that good in the ring despite thier athletic abilities? You just can't compare Boxing to other sports. Big muscles or a body fat percentage of 2 percent don't mean squat when you're getting punched in the face. Can you fight or not? Can you take a punch or not? Let's bring 15 rounds back into boxing and you'll see "Old School" training become popular again. There are a lot of snake oil salesmen out there today who prey on people's insecurities amd convince them that they need their training methods in order to succeed. Give me a Ray Arcel, Eddie Futch, Angelo Dundee or Cus D'Amato any day of the week if you want a fighter to be in shape. Hard work does it plain and simple. Learn your trade and learn how to fight. The old timers did'nt need fancy methods to keep them interested or motivated and neither should todays fighter. Just work.
     
  13. Relentless

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    the 'modern' training methods are nothing new, they have been used by fighters of the past as well as the fighters now, i think you are confusing skill with conditioning.

    i'd like to see you give interval training a try and tell me you dont feel like throwing up your guts.
     
  14. RDJ

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    No mate, I agreed with you. I meant any theory or model, in this case the weights theories.