I know this is one of Floyd's favorite moves, but not everyone is blessed with his athleticism. Do you guys ever use it, and if you did, would you ever drop your lead hand? Peep around 2:45 of the vid. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9mIqvgc-pI&feature=channel[/ame]
allll the time. do it in several variations. straight back, left hand down. or...back with a block on left side of head turning head a bit to right, straight right counter. or sometimes an overhand right counter. but the straight right is the best cuz it just gets there quickest. Throw left hook off of it say 50% of time, idk, w/e is open after. Is a move worked a long time on, getting the range and timing down. But a really good one to use if you're a distance fighter. I would even say a necessity in the countering dept..
its ok to do that but you need to know your range, if you are going to put your hands down you ether have to move your head, be out of range or cover your chin with your shoulder if in range. I sometimes do that but don't go straight back standing up right and squared off. I stand more side on and lean back but use my shoulder to cover my chin. The way the guy done it in the video his chin couldn't have been poking out any further, that how you get knocked out. But if you are gifted with awesome reflexes like Floyd you can get away with amost anything.
Excellent advice from the both you. I'm gonna work on pulling back with my shoulder protecting my chin, leaning slightly to the right.
I pull back all the time, but I never drop my hand. I usually have my hand up in front at a further distance to protect myself and create layers
the best practice imo is on the pads. just have your trainer throw directly at your face and learn your range, come back with that quick right, and w/e left hook w/e combo you want to finish with. but practice it by itself first. one thing to be careful of is...and I learned this the hard way is to make sure you get proper rotation on your foot (right foot if ortho), otherwise it is really easy to hurt your lower back. I was sidelined for nearly 2 months last year pulling/tearing muscles in my back doing it wrong and being flat-footed.
"Layers" is a great word. I just seen Allen Green using this technique on fight camp 360. Peep around 8:05 in the video. It's great to have different options. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTkgI7tS9CE[/ame]
Something of that sort, except I do not lean rather take a step with my back foot and quickly pull foward
meh, imo unless you have a longer reach than your opponent you should be slipping instead. None of us are PBF, and tbh leaning back in reaction to a punch is usually considered a bad habit in most places where I've trained, unless you're real tall. Slipping is generally more effective, closes distance better, and puts you in a better position to counter. Also, if you're pre emptively slipping in combinations (like you should be) then it doesn't even require all that great reaction time.
This. I'm actually pretty good at this technique but my trainer hates when I do it because I'm in much better position to land a harder counter shot when I slip, and he considers it more a of a pure defensive move. Although, I'm only 6' and I'm a heavy, so I fight guys taller than me. Only people who have a height advantage should really use this move imo.