Is this why so many people (wrongly) scored for Joe C/Devon A vs B-Hop/Kotelnik?

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  1. Delroc

    Delroc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you see Mike Jones-Soto Karass(sp?) on Pacquiao's undercard? i swear that copubox was bogus, had Jones throwing like 250 more punches then Soto Karass as the final punch numbers when Jones took like 3 rounds off after his flurry and Karass never stopped punching.

    i think Jones deserved the nod cause he did more damage but he didnt throw more punches.
     
  2. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Compubox is a f'n joke I don't put any faith in it at all and don't see why anyone else should. Yes scoring can be subjective but imo if you want to go with effectiveness you go with Hopkins and Kotelnik. If you want to go with ineffective aggression(I don't see why one would want to) you go with Calzaghe & Alexander though you're suppose to score for effectiveness anyways.
     
  3. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Early on in the fight, that was the case. The problem was Hopkins couldn't sustain his early success past the first few rounds and reverted to pure spoiler once Calzaghe started to time him, mounting no offense of his own. Conditioning played a huge factor in that fight, as well. The last 3/4 of that fight from Hopkins was something like this: Leap in,miss with one right, try and throw a headbutt in the resulting clinch, repeat. That's not enough offense to overcome the workrate and what Calzaghe did land. It was ineffective aggression versus negative aggression; ineffective wins. Hopkins didn't land near the shots on Calzaghe that Kotelnik landed on Alexander, and that's not from Compubox, that's just from watching both firsthand.

    As for Compubox, it also overstated the punches Alexander landed on Kotelnik, because there's no way 30 percent of his power shots connected. According to Compubox, they landed at the same percentage of power shots and it was pretty clear watching it that Kotelnik was more accurate there.

    Interestingly enough, Cloud-Johnson on the same card had similar Compubox results with a different outcome- Johnson threw a couple hundred punches more, Cloud landed a little more, and Tavoris walked away with the result.
     
  4. Wige247

    Wige247 Active Member Full Member

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    So one or two hard shots by Hopkins > 10 - 15 'pitty-pat' punches by Calzaghe + effective pressure + activity...:think
     
  5. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Where do you get this "order of priority" BS? No such thing...
     
  6. kingalex

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    B-HOP vs. Calzaghe: 115-113 for Calzaghe(Rd.9 EVEN)
    Alexander vs. Kotelnik: 114-114, I made a thread about it.
     
  7. Sweet Jones

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  8. zarman

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    what is wrong is when people score fights with thier dick instead of thier brain
     
  9. Jetmax

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    That's bull****. They put that out just to justify his loaded scoring.