Arum & Roach rejects 155 for Martinez

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tliang1000, Nov 22, 2010.


  1. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Yeah... Pac's a cherry picking coward. Cherry picking all of those tough fighters that Mayweather has avoided at all costs. You know... Margo, Cotto.... If that is Cherry pickin'.... I sure as hell wish Floyd would start doing it.
     
  2. Twirdman

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    Why don't you people ****ing get 155 is not jr middleweight. You can not fight for a belt at 1 pound over the weight limit. You can't fight in a division if you are at all over the weight limit. So Martinez requesting 155 makes him a middleweight. And it makes this fight a MW fight. If the fight was 154 or under it is a Jr MW fight if not its not. Those are the simplest terms I can use to explain it. I don't care how tall Martinez is I don't care how big his frame is if he is not weighing under 154 he is not a Jr MW. He could be freaking 4'2" and if he weighs over 154 pounds he ceases to be able to fight as a jr MW.
     
  3. zorryt

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    I know for sure many people in this forums hate Martinez and Manny they want these two fighter to destroy each other (Like margo and cotto) so Mayweather or another black fighter can take the center stage, **** you, ain't gonna happen that way sorry. Third world fighters will beat the crap of all them first, then they will fight for supremacy.
     
  4. moreorless

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    Seems much the same as Martinez offering 155lbs to me, 150-152lbs seems like a decent middle ground to me and if Martinez can't make that then theres nothing wrong with Pac not wanting a fight a guy that much larger.

    I can certainly agree with Pac holding a 154lbs belt being questionable but to claim that he's ducking a guy who can't cut below 155lbs because he just fought a guy who cut to 150lbs is nonsense.
     
  5. Casa

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    Margarito is a welterweight. The fact that he only had to cut to 150 was a benefit to him. That falls within the 154-lb. weight limit for junior middleweights. Blame the WBC for giving title-shots to two guys who didn't do **** at the weight.
     
  6. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your skill set can only be seen against the quality of opposition. How can any one say Floyd has the best skill set of the three when Manny and Martinez always fight the best out there. Manny wants to fight Floyd no other opponent in the history of the sport ever requested anything like that ( A blood test)

    What fight at 147 proves Mayweather has the best skill set today ?
    Being wobbled against Mosley who is shot and near 40 off the longest layoff his his entire career. Or maybe it was the 12 rd decisions of the Welters Cotto and Margarito took care of by quick Knockout
     
  7. caster

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    :good ... you missed 1 thing though... BALLS :deal
    FMJ skill set + balls = (great defensive boxer)
    MP skill set = (great offensive boxer)
     
  8. causality

    causality Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac- Margo is already very awkward to watch. No need for Pac-Martinez.
     
  9. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    That's because you are a boxing fan first who likes to see good fights. :good
     
  10. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    I gotta agree here too. The man just don't fight enough. He will lose sooner than later at this rate.
     
  11. Overhill

    Overhill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao fights Margarito but not Martinez = RJJ fought John Ruiz but not Lennox Lewis. Even the most bravest circus acts has to be limited to certain point.

    Pacquiao should not fight Sergio. Who say that he should is either delusional fan or hater who want to see Pac get hurt.

    Pac-Floyd is The Fight that boxing needs.
     
  12. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Martinez agrees to 150 then they will take the fight :deal
     
  13. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    jones actually went up to heavyweight to fight a real heavyweight AT heavyweight! :tong
     
  14. Overhill

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    But I believe you understand my point. Margarito fight was (for me at least) an extreme stunt just like Ruiz was for Jones. I don't care how legit the championship is on these, rare circumstances.
     
  15. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah i do. they both chose to fight the easiest possible fight at the weight. i totally agree with you! they never really wanted to test themselves at the weights, they really wanted the easy belt on their resume. :good