Pay your respects to Joe Calzaghe

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TFFP, Nov 30, 2007.


  1. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    Nothing to do with race

    His detractors are spastic, and mainly yanks, hence the term 'spastic yanks'

    Geddit?

    Now answer the question. If he beat Pavlik and Taylor, and lost to RJJ at his prime would he qualify as a great?
     
  2. headhunter

    headhunter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes because if you're no1 you should be fighting someone like gatti :rofl
     
  3. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Bika was just on the Contender, NOBODY is placing him on the top of any divisions....believe that. And you know what, you guys love to make the "he did it for exposure" excuse. Fine. I agree, it might have gained him some popularity. But why do you refuse to accept that it comes with a price??? Fighting Peter Manfredo GAINED him some exposure and an easy victory, but it COST him any claim to "Fighter of the Year" and it COST him another opportunity to take a true "legacy fight".
     
  4. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    legacy wise it is calzaghe and warren`s fault he does (did not as he does now)
    get much respect.
    constant injurys
    pull out of fights
    fighting down to the level of opposition sometimes.
    to many mediocre defenses.

    also the fact that america produced absolute zip between 97 and 2004 at 168 made 168 a european division and so not really intresting.

    calzaghe having fights in america from 97 to 2004 also would have meant nothing.

    during this time period the top american 168 fighters like echolls and brewer were fighting for $30k to $50k purses when they were not fighting each other and even then i remember reading echolls was asked to take a pay cut from $30k purse, refused and his fight was pulled.

    calzaghe would have had to give up his money /go to america/move up to light heavy and work his way into a number 1 contender slot and then wait for a mandatory shot to get a roy jones fight and thus a big money high recognition fight.
     
  5. stagolee

    stagolee New Member Full Member

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    I stopped reading the thread after this one to be honest, I reckon you have summed it up perfectly there FlatNose.
     
  6. Bodysnatcher

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  8. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    good post, I agree with most of what you said, especially the part when you said at least every great fighter should have at least one notable win in the states.:good
     
  9. Bodysnatcher

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  12. yesihavearm

    yesihavearm Active Member Full Member

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    Wtf are you talking about ??

    Never been in a war ?

    vs Reid was a war
    vs Brewer was a war
    vs Sheika was a war
    vs Mitchell was a war

    Those are some of Joe's best wins against some top American competition ?

    What the hell have you been watching, joe vs mitchell was one of the most action packed punch-fests ever seen.
     
  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    One of the greatest fighters around today. The Lacy fight - with the COMPLETE dominance he showed over a touted up and comer - gave serious indications that he was as great as his partisans alleged, and the Kessler fight proved it. Now, only the diehard haters deny that is one of the best fighters of this era.
     
  14. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    And he has an Iron chin.:D
     
  15. gutto

    gutto Guest

    :goodgot that right in imo