What about juan manuel marquez next for kahn

Good points Slip. I agree with that.

 

Team Marquez didn't seem too keen on fighting Khan last time

 

i would love to see that fight.. that would be awesome

 

In one way i'd love to see this fight and over here just to go see JMM in action.

Its not a fight id like for khan however for his all his physical attributes JMM would pounce on the mistakes khan makes and if he got khan hurt with his accuracy he wouldnt let him off the hook.

 

JMM at 140 and above is totally ****.

Stop mentioning his name.

Khan would spark him out in 4-5 rounds.

 

Khan wouldn't really have that much physicality over Marquez at 140. There's no need to take his last fight out because that was basically the normal Khan. He was just a bit more jumpy and frantic, but it's no different from the way he fought most of his other fights. The same flaws are still there and someone like Juan Manuel would feast on them.

Marquez is precise, has insane timing and he would take advantage of every Khan mistake. Khan is easy to counter over the top especially when he's aggressive. Watch how he was countered with right hands by Malignaggi a few times and Maidana hit him with right hands over his jab numerous times, well before the one that hurt him. Khan is very heavy on his front foot and those fighters are never hard to hit and there's more then one way to beat him. Pressure fighters expose his poor inside game and lack of defense and Marquez would prey on his mistakes when he's on the offensive.

Marquez is brillient at swimming against the tide. I don't see what Amir has in his arsenal that Pacquiao didn't when he fought Marquez, Manny even then was much superior to Khan. He was faster, hit harder and was more elusive and Marquez had no problem countering or punching with him. Mayweather stopped going for the stoppage after he was caught on the chops with a Marquez right hand. This old man is no joke and he would set traps for Amir and exploit his naivity.

Amir admires his work to much and his defence or lack thereof is a big concern. I always worry when i see a fighter who moves a lot but is easy to hit at the same time. He's a statue in his shoulders and head. I really hope they stop rushing this kid, because they're gonna end up cashing out on him pretty soon and cutting his career earning potential.

 

Marquez is brilliant, but no fighter is good enough to take advantage of every single mistake! Of course he would have his successes but I think the damage done on JMM would exceed what he could inflict on Khan. I can't see how you can neglect looking at the physical advantages here, a near 38 year old lightweight moving up to 140 to take on the tallest and fastest of the top guys represents problems for him, a weight class too far at his age.

 

bad fight for khan unless they make it above 140

 

Couple of cracking posts there from slip&counter. Khan's seemingly improved level of punch resistance impressed me nearly as much his fighting spirit (though the latter has never been questionable to me) at the weekend. I'm happy for the kid: he's proven a lot of people wrong and thus is very deserving of his hour in the sun. I like him.

His overall game, however, has a lot of creases in it; creases from the amateurs that even a trainer of Roach's omniscience might have trouble ironing out, though I dearly hope otherwise.

Amir is essentially - to me, at least - the typical stand-up, straight lines 'European' boxer-puncher. His uncommon speed and athleticism serve as partial atonement for the associated shortcomings that sometimes tend to accompany this style, as does his work rate. Nevertheless, it is what it is, ie. effective but still exploitable. Overcoming a wild, unorthodox, bollocks-to-the-wall aggressor in the mould of Maidana is an important step for any stand-up boxer and one that even the best can trip up on, but it doesn't ready you for the elite, multi-dimensional punchers and technicians. Many people seem to be under the impression that movement and not leading are all that it takes to put Marquez in trouble, which isn't true. Not on their own at least. Combine them with a varied jab, a cute defence, an angled attack, educated lateral movement and a high level of ring generalship and then you stand a very good chance of beating him. Khan hasn't really demonstrated any of these attributes to the required level as far as I can see. Only Mayweather, who outsized Marquez, has ever really done it conclusively, although I suspect his style would've always given JMM toothache even if they had both been the same size.

If Marquez isn't too shopworn or faded (he's starting to look it btw), can carry his power up and can handle Khan's speed as he did Pacquiao's, Amir would be in trouble imo. Marquez doesn't quite have the same clubbing force behind his punches that Maidana does but his technique, timing, accuracy and - crucially - finishing ability are on another level. Replace Maidana with Marquez in that 10th round and you can nigh on guarantee that Khan isn't getting out of it. His speed might prevent it from being onesided to begin with and he also might have the ability himself to land frequently enough to hurt Marquez in return if he sets his feet. Marquez has, after all, become very hittable himself in recent years though he never had the most impregnable defence even in his prime.

Warren and Roach would do well to steer clear until (and if) more can be added to Khan's game or until Marquez has faded beyond repair. But Khan will probably have left 140 behind by then if someone like Bradley hasn't already gotten to him.

Khan has proven his chin, conditioning and bravery to everyone, henceforth ticking them off on his 'to do' list. Hopefully now he can work on his inside game, tightening and varying his defence (standing still with your head in your hands waiting for the other fellow to stop punching is asking for trouble at the highest level), refining and controlling his footwork/lateral movement and developing his ring generalship. Something tells me that his punching style/pattern will never change, so hopefully his speed will always help to compensate for it.

Right, time for me to stop talking bollocks and do something constructive....