If the Klitschkos were exciting boxers do you think the HW wouldn't be so poor?

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  1. kolokomandos

    kolokomandos GLASS IS NOT AN OPTION Full Member

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    80' HW was ****, what are you talking about?

    60', 70' and 90' are the greatest eras.
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Heavyweight is poor because apart from the klits and haye, there's no talent, not because the Klitschko's are boring.
     
  3. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I love it how haters make threads about the Klitschko's, like there is only one boxer and they are both the same.

    Vitali is an exciting, agressive and mean spirited fighter that is exciting to watch.

    Wlad can at times be boring, but he has been a dominant champion for a long time now, beating every challenger whilst barely losing a round.

    However, this has no impact on how the division is perceived by casual fans like the OP.

    It comes down to the fact that from an American perspective two Euro bums have absolutely dominated the division for 5 years without losing, and that is very hard for them to take. So at every opportunity to criticise and down grade the division they take it.
     
  4. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Pac vs margarito was exciting as well, vitali was very active in that fight, sure it wasnt a competitive matchup and someone should have protected briggs but it was way better then the jab jab wait for it wait for it jab, things we normally get to see from them.
     
  5. dvb

    dvb Well-Known Member Full Member

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    its not their fault that the division is poor,but they dont make it more exciting i dont think.

    ive no problem them being athletes and working hard.but they could work harder to entertain and win over more fans,even non boxing fans,if they went for the knock outs quicker.

    if as soon as they realise thier opponents cant reach their chins,cant get inside,cant hurt them,they should be knocking those guys out,so any round after round 1 really.
     
  6. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Utter nonsense.
     
  7. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    promoters from anywhere in the world would be faling over themselves in the next 10 years if they can find 2 heavyweights who can fill arenas to capacity every fight and attract tens of millions of tv fans for every fight they have .

    they must be doing something right.

    as to heavyweights being so poor, how quickly the don king era of matching one don king fighter v another don king fighter to the exclusion of every other heavy from anywhere is in the world is forgotton.

    and this covered a large period of time in not so long ago heavyweight history.
     
  8. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How is Vitali boring? Granted, Wlad's latest fights shouldn't have gone half as long as they actually did considering how much bigger, stronger and better he was than his opponents but hey - he stopped almost all of them. Chambers, Peter II, Brock & Austin were stopped quite spectacularly.
    Again, I don't see what the problem with Vitali is. His punching power appears to have declined since his comeback which is why his last five bouts were not uber exciting but what about Lewis - Vitali oder Sanders - Vitali? Put a credible opponent in front of him and Vitali will go toe to toe with him. LL - Vitali is probably the most discussed fight in the General Boxing Forum if that serves as a legit indicator how awesome that fight was.
     
  9. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    No, I agree with him. I'm 44 years old and I remember Tyson's early fight quite well. He fought guys like Mike Jameson, Steve Zouski & Peter McNeely. One of Mike's better opponents was James "Bonecrusher" Smith & Mike couldn't even KO him.

    I think posters like yourself have selective memory, choosing to only remember the quick, early knockouts that Tyson became famous for. The truth is, when Mike stepped up & won the title he took longer to dispose of his competition, since they were better fighters. The obvious exceptions being Spinks, Carl "The Truth" Williams & old man Holmes.

    That era was worse than the era we have right now.
     
  10. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    No it's not, read my previous post. Thanking you in advance. :thumbsup
     
  11. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    To answer the original thread question:

    No, most of the same people complaining about today's Heavyweight division would still be complaining even if the Klitschkos knocked every opponent out in 3 or less rounds.

    The reason? They aren't American, or black, or thugs. That's what these folks want to see, a **** talkin', thug gangsta wannabe who demolishes **** competition and gets arrested in between fights for being involved in bar brawls, drugs & ****.

    The Klitschkos will never fit that role for obvious reasons.................:D
     
  12. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Wlad, Vitali, Haye, Adamek, Dimitrenko, Boytsov and a host of other top Heavyweights are in great shape. Probably the best shape of any era in history.

    Arreola & Solis are fat & Sam Peter & Shannon Briggs could stand to lose a few pounds too. Eddie Chambers is borderline....................who else? Chagaev isn't fat & neither is Ibragimov, they just aren't "cut" in the same sense as the top guys. Valuev looks to be losing weight just about everytime he gets in the ring. That's not easy for a guy that big either.
     
  13. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Exactly. Well said.

    By the way, are you going to be doing a round by round for Austin vs. Solis?

    Pretty please................:D
     
  14. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Agree. The 70's were the best because the top guys fought the top guys and there was a lot of depth. There was a lot of depth in the 90's but some of them never fought each other. It would've been great if Lewis fought Bowe, or Bowe fought Tyson, or Ruiz fought Byrd, or Lewis fought Byrd or Ruiz, etc.
     
  15. Wige247

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    The HWs suck b/c the top guys aren't fighting anyone nearly close their rank. You have Top 10s beating a series of guys who should be ranked in the 30s, if that, then claiming they've earned a title shot.