Judges rob Hopkins against Calzaghe, and now Pascal

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by GlassJawAnalyst, Dec 19, 2010.


  1. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    I would like to see your ChinChecking credentials before I grace this thread with my salient expertise any further.
     
  2. 12downfor10

    12downfor10 Guest

    Hmmm
     
  3. GlassJawAnalyst

    GlassJawAnalyst Active Member Full Member

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    I watched this fight with 10 friends and we all had Hopkins winning by a few rounds. He had the advantage of a knockdown, and all the clean and hard hitting work. Calzaghe pitter pattered/shoe shined/slapped for 12 rounds.
     
  4. mckay_89

    mckay_89 Haw you! Full Member

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    I thought Hopkins beat Calzaghe as well, but it was a close fight and can't be classed as a robbery.
     
  5. GlassJawAnalyst

    GlassJawAnalyst Active Member Full Member

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    I have no credentials to speak of, I'm just a fan of Glass Jaws, Glass Jaw II. Hence, the user name. I eagerly await the thrid installment.
     
  6. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe outlanded Pascal 3 times in his fight vs. Hopkins, and other than this fact (that should settle the Slappy debate), I have problems seeing what significance that fight holds in this debate. I always suggest people to score a debated fight backwards (R12, R11 etc) so they wouldn't be affected by early knowdowns (to avoid the 'damn the can explode at any second!!!' scoring mentality) and you'll give 7 to 9 rounds to Slappy.
     
  7. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    BHop is the GOAT
     
  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe clearly beat Hopkins. Hopkins fans cant accept that Hopkins lost, but he did.
    Calzaghe landed more solid shots as well as flapping at times. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins. Hopkins is known for his strong finishes but look at the facts, if Hopkins thought he was winning he wouldnt have been faking injury, looking for time out and holding like he did, whilst Calzaghe finished very strong.
    Calzaghe beat Hopkins at a new weight Calzagehe hadnt fought before, in America with 3 American judges. It was only a SD as the judge that scored for Hopkins gave Hopkins round 11 a round Joe clearly won. The other 2 judges didnt even have it close and scored wide for Calzaghe.

    Calzaghes win looks better and better.

    Clear Calzaghe win, accept Hopkins lost and move on
     
  9. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah Hopkins should have won both fights ( Calzaghe, Pascal). Hopkins was the clear winner in both fights.
     
  10. GlassJawAnalyst

    GlassJawAnalyst Active Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe outlanded because he slaps/shoe shines, Bernard had all the clean punches.
     
  11. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    There was only a point in it either way between Hopkins and Calzaghe. It's literally impossible to properly score that fighter to either man by more than a point.

    I haven't seen Pascal/Hopkins. But the punch stats show that Hopkins landed more in every single round.

    Are these fights really comprable, and what is your definition of a robbery?

    I think it is slightly different to mine.
     
  12. GlassJawAnalyst

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    So why did the bookies have Calzaghe at +4.0 odds at the final bell? are bookies known for giving free money way? they have experts watching the fights, the money was all going Hopkins.
     
  13. COLD-HARD-TRUTH

    COLD-HARD-TRUTH Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I said it 2 weeks ago that Hopkins would win the fight but get robbed by the judges in Canada and some of you Canadians jumped all over me and said I don't know what I'm talking about. The proof is in the pudding.... and yes, Hopkin's did get robbed against Calzaghe too. I had that fight 7-5 Hopkins.
     
  14. GlassJawAnalyst

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    My definition of robbery is when a clear winner is denied victory. The margin may be small or it may be large, a robbery is a robbery IMO.
     
  15. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Calzaghe won.

    Get over it.