Haye/Wlad - THE FIGHT

Haye will come out full of enthusiasm and possibly cause Wladimir a few scares before being punched before he can get close enough to the guy to land anything wears him down physically and mentally, he enters survival mode as his face starts to swell up and Klitschko ko's him somewhere in the last 4 rounds. Haye isn't as elusive as his fans like to make out, isn't good at taking a big shot, and once the fear of being KO'd himself leaves Wladimir he'll be landing his big straights and hooks, one will put Haye down.

 

Yes & No. It's really hard to say.

Vitali has the better chin of the 2 brothers & quite possibly the best chin period at Heavyweight right now. He's also the more unorthodox fighter of the 2 & that makes him hard to train for. He doesn't have the 1 punch power that Wlad has but he does throw every punch from every possible angle and with bad intentions. It's not like Haye has a solid chin so any of those weird uppercut/hook punches could find it's mark & VK is a good finisher.

Wlad has more power, faster hands & a more orthodox style. Combine that with his all time great jab and it looks a lot like Haye is ****ed..................

 

When the opposite happens & Haye gets KO'd I want you, MickeyBlueBalls, HENDO and the rest of the Hayelords to return to this very thread and give Wladimir the credit he deserves.

Thanking you in advance..................

 

Just make sure you return to this thread to congratulate Wladimir on yet another great KO win. :deal

 

I don't dissapear if I get it wrong.

I'll be here, but will you?

 

If Eddie 'Fast Food' Chambers can take Wlad into the 12th round, i'm sure Haye can.

 

I would imagine Haye inside the first 4 rounds.

I think it will be a very cautious start for both men and it wouldn't surpirse me if there was a few boos, like there was for the Harrison fight. Haye will be looking to counter and Wlad will throw the occasional jab but nothing too threatening. Like I've said before, Wlad won't throw his right at a moving target, so all Haye has to do is keep moving if he wants to avoid the big shots. If he slips the jab, he can rush in and throw a few shots. One thing Haye is good at, which negates a lot of Klitschko's defence, is working his way out of the clinch. When he does this against Wlad, he'll be forcing the fight on the inside and Wlad has no inside game or defence there, so that's where Haye has his best chance. Move inside, throw shots to avoid being clinched and, if he is held onto, work out of it by dipping low and throw combinations after before Klitschko can get his guard back up.

It is a very winnable fight for Haye because a lot of his good work comes on the inside and Wlad does absolutely nothing there but hold. If he can be active on the inside and avoid being held, he'll knock Wlad out quickly.

For Wlad, he needs to ensure that Haye doesn't work on the inside. To tie him every chance he gets and to keep pushing his jab out in the early rounds. If Wlad's jab is accurate, he will win but if it isn't, that gives Haye the perfect opening to get on the inside. It's important that Wlad throws upwards of 40 jabs per round to keep the distance and they must be accurate and stiff. If he can do that, Haye will think twice about jumping in and eventually, he will slow down. When he starts to slow down, his movement will lessen and that's the opening for Klitschko's power shots.

I do think Haye will win quickly but it's an intriguing fight.

 

Dude, I've been here for years................I ain't going anywhere & Klitschko will win by brutal KO, mark my words. :deal

 

Not a bad post but I think you're under rating Wlad's jab & over rating Haye's skills overall.

Haye was usually the bigger man when he fought at Cruiser and he'd fight from the outside, similar to the way Vitali fights from the outside. Haye keeps his hands low to goad the opponent into throwing something he can counter off of. That's suicide vs. a huge, accurate puncher like Wladimir. Vitali can get away with that style because he has a great chin to fall back on, Haye doesn't have that luxury. Also, Wlad is stronger than Haye and Wlad will tie Haye up on the inside, lean on him & wear him out.

 

It depends on how much Haye can get under Wlads skin before the fight. Haye's a counterpuncher and i agree that this fight could be very boring with both guys wary of being hit. Somebody has to lead and if Wlad comes at Haye, he's getting knocked out. Haye will probably try and employ the same tactics as the Valuev fight but with the intent of knocking Wlad out when he connects.
My heart says Haye by early KO but my head says Wlad by late stoppage and business as usual.

 

Sounds about right to me

 

Haye by brutal KO

 

I've always given Haye a good chance in this fight and I don't see what he's got to be particularly afraid of. Wladimir will give him the chance to relax on the outside and it will be a chess match - coming down to who can land first. I think Haye is more of the risk-taker; more of a go getter, and that will ultimately see him to victory.

I think Vitali is alot harder fight for Haye. He won't give Haye the chance to pick and choose openings as much.

 

This fight as all fights depends on circumstance and timing. David Haye around 2008 was improving fight by fight, and really stepping outside of his comfort zone as each fight was a progressive step forward. He seemed hungry, and fought with more confidence.

J.M. Morneck Wkor7
E. Macrenelli Wkor2
M. Barrett Wkor5

He kept improving in the sense that if the David Haye of the Mormeck fight had fought the David Haye of the Mccaranelli fight then in my eyes Haye of the Macca fight would have won.

Meanwhile i felt Wladimir Klitshcko was going through a bad patch, he looked woeful against Ibragimov, looked average against Thompson and looked far too tentative and took far to long to take out a way past it Rahman.

Wladimir took to long to throw his major power punches, looked bored and seem stale whilst Haye looked stronger and stronger.

This all changed in 2009 when Haye had a year out and fought what I consider a disappointing fight against Valuev, i felt David could have done far more and really showed his true ability......he literally did what Holyfield at 45 did in 2008 against Valuev. Haye has since gone onto fight Ruiz, and Harrison with each fight being a step down from the previous...he looked sloppy, and tired easily against Ruiz, and fought a strange fight against Harrison where he took far too long to throw. In a sense in those two years i see David as becoming softer.

This has all taken place whilst Wladimir has improved in his own performances, and look top quality against top 5 fighters Chagaev, and Chambers and took out Peter who 5 years earlier had given him a hard time. Wlad sense of timing, punching power, accuracy, and general bossing of fights has in my mind shown Wlad to be in his prime in his last 3 fights.

Having watched both men, i realized they both like to make sure they will land as they dont believe in there chins enough, but i always thought Haye would go for it more, but having reviewed his fights against Valuev and Harrison i understand now that he will land a few dangerous punches on Wlad, but Wlad will take him into deep water via hard long jabs, and holding on.

I see Wlad slowing a competitive first 5 rounds into a one sided jab fest where he eventually stopes David in the 9th round.

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I actually think David should have taken on Vitali right now, as Vitali is way past it.

 

Those of us here are big enough men if we're wrong on haye winning will admit to that, unlike the lunatics of the general forum.

In defence of haye, the ruiz fight was a mandatory and he did very well considering he had very little sparring as it transpires now. No one can deny the harrison fight was a joke, but this was a easy decision to make as 1: easy payday, 2: got rid of another sauerland fight out of the way. 3:Big HW target practise, although there wasn't much practise needed to be done on harrison.

I will have money on haye to win by tko, if vlad wins then well done to him.