Pacquiao is a major cherry picker and Mayweather is not

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  1. ekar

    ekar Active Member Full Member

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    They both cherry pick. But at least manny did it for the most posible money. Floyd did it for the most postible money vs a fighter that he's sure to win.
     
  2. romuald

    romuald Member Full Member

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    yes, thats why he picked:nut mayweather to fight him, until now
    the pacman is cherrypicking mayweather:lol:
     
  3. JUSTAFIGHTFAN

    JUSTAFIGHTFAN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok genius, flip that around wherein floyd from 135 that could beat DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and Margo consecutively in dominating fashion.

    Took him SD with DLH, Hatton competetive at first, the rest he ducked.
     
  4. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac should be commended for moving up in weight to take on DLH, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito(though Margo didn't deserve a shot). He proved his talent by dominating them as not anybody could just do so no matter the catch weights or the fact that they didn't look that good in there previous fights.

    At the same time though they were all guys that Pac stylistically matched up well with. Which is why they were the ones selected. Roach has basically admitted so numerous times. Which has introduced the questions that have been raised many times. Take away the size and add athleticism does Pac still dominate? Take away the power and add speed does Pac still dominate? Would they be willing to fight someone like that even if it didn't mean a 40 mil pay day?
     
  5. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Pacquiao is cherry picking Floyd.

    nuff said.
     
  6. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it true dude your looking at how things are now because your just now starting to watch boxing but real boxing fans knows.
     
  7. WelshDevilRob

    WelshDevilRob Active Member Full Member

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    Is Floyd actually fighting anymore? Last I heard he cherry picked a fight with a minimum wage Security guard.

    Floyd ain't fought a decent Welterweight since he's been in the division. Manny started good beating Cotto but Mosley is a old, faded fighter that Floyd already destroyed.

    These two guys need to fight eachother.
     
  8. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are joking ???

    Please tell me you are.
     
  9. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :lol: Floyd was nearly robbed against Oscar and was fighting him at every disadvantage in the world.
    Floyd vs Oscar at 147 = Floyd vs Gatti II
    and please don't start that crap about him ducking them, we've debunked that plenty of times and I didn't know that Pacquiao fought an of those guys at 135 :huh
     
  10. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    I've been watching boxing since the 80's kid. And only you seem to think Baldomie was severly ducked as a fighter. Only you think Baldomir would beat Cotto, Margarito, and Clottey. I'm sure you boxrec'd the Clottey fight right away to make that comment. :roll:

    But if you HONESTLY believe any of that ****, well, that actually proves what a ****in idiot you are.

    Or you can explain how Baldomir was ducked by top WW's till Floyd got the balls to face the MIGHTYBALDOMIR!! :shock:

    Yoi won't make a lick of sense, but I'd like to here this anyway...
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    He isn't. I tried asking that already. :-(
     
  12. JUSTAFIGHTFAN

    JUSTAFIGHTFAN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And you considered floyd fight with Oscar dominating fashion. :huh

    No matter how you spin it floyd still ducked those WW before his 1st retirement.

    Guess who's he ducking again on his 2nd retirement.

    BTW Pac fought Oscar coming from 135, Cotto coming from JWW , fought Margo at JMW, Pac coming from and still weighting WW.
     
  13. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    But Pacquiao weighed more than Oscar the day of the fight. Floyd was still a small welterweight and he went up to fight Oscar at his natural weight.
    Matter fact Manny weighed more in his last fight then Floyd
    Manny weighed 148 against Margo, and Floyd weighed 147 day of fight
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl8bt...ailpage#t=269s
     
  14. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    2006 Arum was not going to risk any of his fighters fighting Baldo.TOP PRANK wanted no part of Blado back then ,trust me i know what hell I'm talking about.I can't name any TOP PRANK FIGHTERS Baldo fought between 1999 and 2006 if so help me out

    dug up from the past
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=5736&more=1
     
  15. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    2006 rankings

    1. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (37-0)

    The pound-for-pound king can now finally call himself "champ" after a thorough domination of Carlos Baldomir to win the title Nov. 4. The fight wasn't an exciting brawl, but that's not Mayweather's game. He's so much better than everyone that he doesn't need to turn fights into grueling physical confrontations because he can so easily outbox his opponents. With the title in hand, our attention can finally turn to the biggest fight in the sport: A possible May 5 showdown with money-man junior middleweight titlist Oscar De La Hoya.
    Next: TBA.



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    2. Antonio Margarito (33-4)
    He can beg, plead and cajole but it doesn't look like the "Tijuana Tornado" is going to get his desired fight with Mayweather. Margarito has other things to worry about anyway, such as a dangerous fight with Joshua Clottey and, if Margarito wins, an even more dangerous mandatory bout against Paul Williams.
    Next: Dec. 2 vs. Clottey.

    3. Ricky Hatton (41-0)
    The British star is moving back down to junior welterweight to challenge Juan Urango of Colombia for his old belt, but instead of Jan. 13 in Atlanta, the potentially action-packed fight is being moved. It will probably wind up in either in Las Vegas or Atlantic City.
    Next: Jan. 20 or 27 vs. Urango.

    4. Luis Collazo (27-2)
    In his first action since a close points loss to Hatton in May, Collazo returned on the Nov. 4 Briggs-Liakhovich card and scored a sixth-round TKO of journeyman Artur "Scar" Atadzhanov. Now that he's back in the win column, Collazo figures prominently into the mix for any notable match at this weight. We'd love to see him face Margarito or Kermit Cintron.
    Next: TBA.

    5. Kermit Cintron (27-1)
    He obliterated Mark Suarez in six rounds on Oct. 28 to win the vacant/badly tainted IBF belt. But Cintron is an exciting fighter who can punch, and he seems to be all the way back from his lone knockout loss to Margarito in April 2005. There are good things to come for him, especially now that he is under the tutelage of Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward.
    Next: TBA.

    6. Paul Williams (32-0)
    The lanky southpaw puncher destroyed game Santos Pakau in six rounds in a showcase fight on the Mayweather-Baldomir card. Williams looms as the mandatory opponent for Margarito, a fight we think he will win if it ever happens.
    Next: TBA.

    7. Carlos Baldomir (43-10-6)
    Sure, "Cinderella Man" couldn't lay a glove on Mayweather and lost the title in a shutout. However, that doesn't diminish his remarkable accomplishments this year, which include upsetting Zab Judah to win the undisputed title in January and knocking out Arturo Gatti in another upset in a July defense. Baldomir also set himself up for life by earning more than $3 million in purses after spending a lifetime in poverty.
    Next: TBA.

    8. Zab Judah (34-4)
    Although he is under a license revocation in Nevada for precipitating a near-riot during the 10th round of his April fight with Mayweather, Judah had hoped to win an appeal to the Association of Boxing Commissions that would allow him to fight in other states. But the ABC smacked him down and will force him to serve the punishment he deserved.
    Next: TBA.

    9. Oktay Urkal (37-3)
    The German mandatory contender is content to take step-aside money to allow Miguel Cotto and Carlos Quintana to battle for the belt Hatton vacated. The winner will be obligated to face Urkal in his next fight.
    Next: TBA.

    10. Arturo Gatti (40-8)
    Mr. Blood and Guts has a fight left on his HBO deal, so he'll take the money and at least one more fight before thinking about retirement. One name mentioned as a possible comeback opponent is popular New Yorker Dmitriy Salita (26-0-1), whose record is better than his ability.
    Next: TBA.

    You all see how this panned out this was 2006 .