Ali vs Stevenson or Tyson vs Felix Savon. Which would have been the bigger event!

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  1. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In 1976 after winning a second gold medal T. Stevenson was offered 5 million to fight Ali, but chose not to.Also, Felix Savon after his second gold medal was offered 10 million to fight Tyson but he declined as well. Both stated no amount of money was good enough to defect from the Cuban people. My question is what would have been the bigger event if both Stevenson and Felix Savon had fought Ali ( in 1977) and Tyson (in 1996)?
     
  2. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both Ali and Tyson were the Heavyweight champions. The Ali vs T.Stevenson fight would have taken place in 1977 and the Tyson vs Felix Savon would have taken place in 1996. Both fight would have been huge to say the least!
     
  3. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm going with Savon. The guy went through and dropped alot of top american fighters in the amateurs. Fighters like Tua, Briggs, Brewster etc... just off the top my head. Though I think Tyson would of destroyed him at that time, it would of been fun to see.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    A reigning champion and ATG vs. someone making their pro debut is a mismatch every time. I don't care how decorated an amateur that someone is.
     
  5. Normen Bates

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    Anything involving Muhammad Ali would have been a huge event and I don't think Mike Tyson and Felix Savon which would have been an enormous attraction in its own right could compete.

    Both fights are great from a fantasy perspective but from a reality perspective neither Cuban would have stood a chance against Ali and Tyson.

    More than not the Cubans in the Amateur system are for the most part grown men fighting underdeveloped teenagers. "Super" Mario Kendelen was nearly thirty years old when he faced a seventeen year old Amir Khan, realistically thats a grown man fighting a child, and in the Olympic system a lot of Eastern European countries and Cubans have done this for years.

    Personally I think when matched with another adult male who's developed physically its a whole different atmosphere, check Guillermo Rigondeaux's last fight. Savon and Stevenson would have had to deal with a tougher opponent for a longer amount of time, I don't care how many rounds you've sparred or medels you've won both of those guys would have gotten stopped.
     
  6. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with the post here. Of course I know Ali and Tyson would have won. I was asking what have been the bigger event, I picked Ali vs Stevenson myself.
     
  7. Dustaine

    Dustaine Guest

    Err... you can always start your own thread, you know?
     
  8. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Ali - Stevenson...
    Not only because of Ali's name, but also because of the political situation of that moment.
    The Tyson after Savon's second gold medal wasn't quite the beast anymore as he was in the late 80's and had lost some of his shine.

    I agree, both pro's would have won.
     
  9. larsker

    larsker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    chagaev beat savon in 1997 in the heavyweight finals of the world championships and he is considered a bum by klitscko haters
     
  10. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I believe Savon won like 400 amateur bouts. I'm not gonna judge Savon or Stevenson for not turning pro cause sometimes its pride over prize and if we were Cuban we all might have done the same thing. But, it would have been interesting to see how they would have done in the Pro game,
     
  11. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    I think it goes without saying who would have won each bout.

    I'm sort of inclined to say Mike - Savon is the bigger of the two bouts, just because Ali was all but done by 77' and Mike was going through the Holyfield duet at the time when his popularity was sky high and he had more to give than Ali at those respective stages of their careers. It is a really hard one to judge to be honest, being unborn in 77' and only 6/7 in 96' means I can't really put it into too much perspective.
     
  12. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Ali vs Stevenson. Stevenson was the first "big" man to have serious skills. He was the prototype of Lewis, Bowe, and the Klitschko's. Where Stevenson falls short is because he never fought as a pro he was never truly tested and his greatness will always be questioned, at least in the pro ranks.
     
  13. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    Just to set the record straight, Cubans win their first Olympics, World Championships, etc.. when they are on their teens, what happens is that they stay longer because the system doesn't have Professional sports, stop this BS, they paid their dues when young, so get the facts right.
     
  14. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    Agree, but he did have the skills, and a heck of right hand, the first truly big man in the HW's.
     
  15. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOB7_BFqUeU[/ame]
    this was a time when only the rounds were the difference.