Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko, Hollyfield, Lewis, Tyson

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  1. SevenSamurai

    SevenSamurai 3 year ESB vet. Full Member

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    Evander Holyfield is a joke:lol: . So many of you rate this guy way too high.

    All four of those are above this guy, on the basis of a combination of head to head and achievements.:patsch
     
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  2. ChampionsForever

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  3. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Tyson
    Lewis
    Holyfield
    Wlad
    Vitali
     
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  4. GABBY

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    53 fights 42 wins has the heart of a lion , that aint no joke in my book .
     
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  5. freesix88

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    holyfield would be nothing without tyson.
    Lewis
    Tyson
    Holyfield
    Wladimir
    Vitali
     
    freesix88, Dec 8, 2007
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Holmes and Berbick beat an Ali in the early stages of disability - are we really comparing a 30 year old Tyson to that Ali?

    I find the whole "Tyson at his peak" thing pretty frustrating, becuase he didn't beat any great fighters, just some really good ones - but it is a reasonable argument, I suppose.
     
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  7. mykolakozak

    mykolakozak Active Member Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis
    Evander Holyfield
    Mike Tyson
    Vitali Klitschko
    Wladimir Klitschko
     
    mykolakozak, Dec 8, 2007
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  8. SevenSamurai

    SevenSamurai 3 year ESB vet. Full Member

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    Make that atleast 10 losses my friend. He got beat by Lewis and Bowe Twice. In the first fight Lewis owned him, but the judges were paid very well. Ruiz, Byrd, Toney and Moorer all beat him.

    If this guys skull wasnt made out of concrete he would have been like any other average journeyman. The only outstanding thing about Holyfield was his Chin, is his chin and always will be his chin. Apart from that he is nothing.:deal He gets over-rated based on his durability and longetivity.

    Nothing against your favourite boxer Gabs:yep .

    Roy would have beaten him, if he had have faced him instead of Ruiz when he moved up aswell btw.

    He has lost to more natural middleweights than any other "great" heavyweight I can ever remember.
     
    SevenSamurai, Dec 8, 2007
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  9. LeadLeftHook

    LeadLeftHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wladimir Klitschko,
    Lewis,
    Holyfield
    Vitali Klitschko,
    Tyson
     
    LeadLeftHook, Dec 8, 2007
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  10. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis
    Holyfield
    Wlad Klitschko
    Tyson
    Vitali Klitschko
     
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  11. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    I almost agree...

    alltime

    lewis
    holyfield
    tyson
    wladimir (may be higher by the end of his career)
    vitali


    who beats who prime

    lewis
    tyson
    wladimir
    holyfield
    vitali
     
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  12. GABBY

    GABBY Active Member Full Member

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    think it was 9 loses my friend, not bad out of 53 fights .
    we all have our favorites so shall we just agree to disagree :good
     
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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    This is when you know a hater is grasping, when he starts changing history to fit his own program. Hollyfield lost to Lewis twice? No he didn't. One draw, one loss. YOU scored it as two losses, which isn't the same thing (i think you'll find).

    I scored the first one for Lewis, sure. The second one - I scored it a draw, on the night. Should I switch the results? No.

    Why not take a moment to admire the fact that Hollyfield, through superb ring generalship, found a way to remain competitive with a man who outsriped him in every single physical area apart from chin for 24 rounds.

    But you are not particularly interested in what Hollyfield did well, I think.
     
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  14. BIGTIMETIMMY

    BIGTIMETIMMY ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    lweis
    holyfield
    tyson
    wlad
    vitali
     
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  15. SevenSamurai

    SevenSamurai 3 year ESB vet. Full Member

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    He lost 10 fights, if you count the first fight against Lewis. Which no one- I mean no one could make a case for him having won anymore than 2 rounds in the entire fight.:D
     
    SevenSamurai, Dec 8, 2007
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