If only Edwin Valero was alive, he'd be steamrolling these fighters at 135/140...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by charlie brown, Jan 21, 2011.


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  1. Aztecas

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    no, cause Pacquiao is a DUCKER that handpicks easy fights.

    Valero had wanted to fight Pac for a couple of years, and Pac ducked him, just like he ducked Humberto Soto.

    funny thing is, Valero also ducked Soto too.

    Pac only fought Margarito, cause the fight was FIXED, just like Pac-Clottey was FIXED, and DelaHoya-Pacquiao was FIXED too.
    Pac is a big fraud.
     
    Aztecas, Jan 23, 2011
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  2. BoxKing

    BoxKing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao a ducker? Fixed fights? :patsch

    No wonder your rep on this forum sucks.
     
    BoxKing, Jan 23, 2011
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  3. Aztecas

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    Pac ducked:
    * a 3rd Marquez fight
    * Humberto Soto many times
    * Valero many times
    * Tim Bradley
    * Juan Diaz many times
    * and a bunch of others, that would make a long list here.

    here's Diaz calling out Pac:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gv4OQpF6iQ[/ame]

    Pac has had fixed fights, and many knew that.

    here are many links:
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    Manny Pacquiao – Antonio Margarito: A Fixed Fight? -- Ringside Report

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    another link:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIhxjPQL52E[/ame]

    :D

    Its just that many of you clowns here dont know boxing.
    I dont care about what reputation you clowns think of me, cause most of you clowns here aint shiitt! and dont know boxing.:lol:
     
    Aztecas, Jan 23, 2011
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  4. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    valero was a beast his early death was a big loss to boxing
     
    elTerrible, Jan 23, 2011
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  5. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    valero was a beast his early death was a big loss to boxing
     
    elTerrible, Jan 23, 2011
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  6. Aztecas

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    Valero was overrated and looked good beating up C and D level bums.

    Valero was able to beat DeMarco with the help of EPO Steroids.
     
    Aztecas, Jan 24, 2011
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  7. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see trees of green, red roses too
    I see them bloom for me and you
    And I think to myself, what a wonderful world

    I see skies of blue and clouds of white
    The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night
    And I think to myself, what a wonderful world :lol:

    i think Juan Manuel Lopez would blaze him :smoke
     
    platnumpapi, Jan 24, 2011
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  8. Aztecas

    Aztecas Guest

    There's nothing Valero could do in the ring, that JMM has not seen and dealt with in the ring.
    JMM beats the semi-dimensional/steroid freak-Valero


    regardless, Humberto Soto KO's both Valero and JMM, one right after the other.
    Thats why both Valero and Marquez were SCARED of Soto and ducked Soto.:lol:
     
    Aztecas, Jan 24, 2011
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  9. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who did Valero beat in all honesty? We also know Japan's drug testing is not it's priority when it comes to PEDs and even illegal drugs. Valero def. had power and talent, but we will never find out if he belong with the elite and even with B-level fighters.
     
    the_truth, Jan 24, 2011
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  10. Real_Truth

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    No he wouldn't...we making piece of **** human beings as ****ing heroes now? He wouldn't be steam rolling through **** once he faced tougher competition.
     
    Real_Truth, Jan 24, 2011
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  11. Aztecas

    Aztecas Guest

    he did have anger rage due to steroid side-effects.
     
    Aztecas, Jan 25, 2011
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  12. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Literally. In his home state he was part of these motorcycle gangs they have that just terrorize little towns around there, running drugs, ****ing people up and generally just being thugs. He hung out with Mighty Mike Anchando and Daniel Ponce De Leon when they were part of the same stable, and apparently knocked De Leon completely the **** out when they were drinking. I read that he was a terror, even among other boxers, and liable to hit anyone at any time. In post-mortem interviews with trainers, sparring partners etc NOBODY had anything nice to say about him... the best thing they would say is that he knew what he wanted and he was very focused on himself, and you could tell they were holding back stories and he wasn't that likable a guy by any standard. He was a madman. A violent, unstable and vicious madman.

    That said, I guess that's what made him effective in the ring, he was just homicidal and probably more comfortable trying to hurt people then he was doing anything else.
     
    bernie4366, Jan 25, 2011
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  13. Aztecas

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    no we wouldnt, cause Pac was AFRAID to fight Valero.

    valero signed with Top Rank on condition that he gets a fight with Pac, but as many of us know, Pac ducked him, like he ducks alot of others.
     
    Aztecas, Jan 25, 2011
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  14. The Wind

    The Wind New Member Full Member

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    I have to question your Boxing knowlegde if you honestly believe or think that Pacquiao has ducked alot of fighters.

    I appreciate Soto and his skills, however, there is no way in my analysis that he would beat Pacquiao or JM Marquez as you have stated in some of your previous posts, they would be good to great fights but Soto would not have the capabilities to beat these two modern day greats!

    Again I don't think it was in Valero's nature to duck anyone, he to would have beaten Soto!
     
    The Wind, Jan 28, 2011
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  15. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    so you think valero's wife ko's soto in the 3rd round?
     
    hooligan, Jan 28, 2011
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