Good to hear. I thought you were one of those guys who believed Ali was shot and old at 30 years old.
How does Frazier get inside to get to Klitschko. Foreman obliterated him, and he towered over him, as each of the Klitshckos would tower over them. On who they'd lose to: Ali of the 60s & early 70s beats them. Beats them on points. I think Foreman of the 70s would beat both of them, he'd ko Wladimir. If he has the stamina, he'd outpoint Vitali. Holmes had a tough time with Gerry Cooney, I think he would outbox Vitali but lose by decision to Wladimir. You are joking if you say Leon Spinks of all people even have a chance against either one of them. Shavers has a chance against Wladimir, the question is who lands first, whoever lands first wins, as Quarry easily KOd Shavers. Vitali easily disposes of Shavers. Jimmy Young, I would think gets outpointed by both of them.
The Klits are not George Foreman, and are too slow with no movement. Frazier hits them they are down.....Klits maybe sparring partners for George.......the rest of your post is total fantasy. Jimmy Young would have made them both look really, really, bad..... Of course they are bad.
Good thing Wladimir has the courage, chin, and ability to throw uppercuts as early as the first round to beat Frazier. Oh, he doesn't have any of that. Frazier only needs to get passed his jab. ONE weapon. Frazier gets past it and beats the **** outta Wlad. Remember folks, this is the same guy that was crawling on the gound like a ****in ***** the second knockdown when he fought Sanders WITHOUT GETTING HIT. Wlad is the same ***** that's fightin Chisora instead of getting BY FAR, BY FAR the BIGGEST PAYDAY OF HIS CAREER AND HBO exposure by fighting HAYE. **** Wlad. He is KILLING heavyweight boxing.
V Klitschko has never been down, how would he get obliterated? Yea, they do not lose rounds but they are 'bad'. Wladmir has enough movement so that people can not reach him, even if they are the same size, much less people who are way shorter than him. Corrie Sanders, the guy who got to Wladmir, was 6 foot 4, not under 6 feet Frazier. You too easily dismiss the height advantage and weight advantage. I have them losing approximately half the fights, yet I am in fantasy land? If you think Leon Spinks, has any chance whatsoever against either Klitshcko, you are in dreamworld.
I could see cuts being a HUGE issue for either Klitschko against: Ali Foreman Holmes On the flip side I could see size, distance, and reach being a huge problem for Joe Frazier. 15 round fights could get interesting too as Ali, Holmes and Frazier proved they had enough to last the distance. Foreman struggled at times with this. Wlad has had stamina issues. Vitali really has not shown it as much he has gone 12 rounds throwing a lot of punches even in his later career where he is pushing 40. There are all kinds of variables here that would effect the fighters positively and negatively. It is why these type of discussions can be so fun. :good
It´s not even about being the top dogs, it´s about being top 10. It´s just ridiculous and imho plain hatered/stupidity to deny that Vitali and/or Wladimir could have achived that. :-( It´s ok if you don´t like the majority of the Klitschko fans, but this is dumb...
George Foreman, somebody who was around and fought in the friggin' 1970s already said that the Klitchskos would be able to hang around in his time.
Frazier would slip Wlad's jab with ease. Hell, even Sam Peter in round one tried a bob and weave and got through. Now Frazier would be relentless with the bob and weave, slipping the jab and landing that hook to body and chin. Wlad has no uppercut, can't fight inside and is prone to panic attacks. Plus he has an egg chin. Wlad wouldn't last 4 rounds.