Can P.E.D's infiltrate Boxing again ?

I think P.E.D's are already rife within boxing. With no out of season testing boxers can do pretty much as they wish, providing their nutritionists have some knowledge surrounding cycling etc.

I'm no expert but I don't believe that urine tests pick up HGH. This is pretty much the staple test within boxing.

 

I think they started infiltrating the sport by the late 60's, and no later than the early 70's if we're giving the benefit of the doubt.

By the time the 80's hit, the sport was flooded. It's obvious now when we see pictures of 90's heavyweights, but the truth is that steroid/PED use was there for decades by that point. Given the untestable nature of many effective PED's to this day, there's no reason for me to think their use has gone away at all, although it looks like fewer heavyweights are on the juice than at this point 15 years ago.

I don't think they've gone anywhere and it certainly wouldn't surprise me to hear that numerous big professional and amateur names were on them at some point. I'd expect that. There's simply too much money and prestige at stake in a sport where every fight matters.

If you hear rumors that your opponent, whose got comparable skills as you, is on something and you're not, are you really going to not take anything and risk losing future paydays and getting your ass kicked in the process? Some people would answer yes to that. Alot of people will say "hell no, I'm not taking a bb gun to a duel where the other guy's got an assault rifle". And that right there is why we'll never see them disappear from sports. And make no mistake- there isn't a clean sport out there,from college sports to the Olympics on up to every professional sports league. As fans, we've been conditioned to want more and more superhuman performances out of these guys while wanting less and less information about what it takes to get there.

 

With the testing we have, it's likely that a great deal of boxers are using. They don't need a Victor Conte, they just need to find someone who will give them what they want.

 

What again? It never left, and it's in almost any sport you see.
In boxing the testing is miles and miles behind other sports, and it will a long time before it catches up.

 

I'm all for random testing throughout the whole year, whether the fighter is in camp or not. If PED use in boxing is as rampant as everyone claims it is, surely this'll make people think twice about using.

 

There is no magic testing that can eliminate PED's....the drugs are always at least one step ahead and the first mover advantage is simply too great for any testing organization to compete with- they can't test for anything until they find out about it first, and even then, there's no guarantee they can test for it. They're still trying to come up with a reliable HGH test, and HGH has been on the market for 30+ years.

That's not even touching the corruption aspect of things.

But yeah....every sport's riddled with them, and they're not going anywhere. Anytime you've got money/prestige on the line and a very limited supply of opportunities to achieve that, that's a recipe for alot of people to do whatever they can to make sure they're on the right side of the final cut.

 

There is better testing. Simple as that. Right now, the truth is, if you get caught, it's more of a, How did you not pass? Compared to, so and so got caught.

 

The truth is, it wouldn't shock me if Pac, Floyd, any other top elite boxer was on them.

 

Know what I bet a lot of boxers use peds in one way or another. They cycle peds when they're not scheduled to fight. That's what I would do. Test in boxing are done only at the night of the fight right. So I will use peds while training off-season(no fight sched) and taper off when a fight gets scheduled. I increased muscle density, built up my endurance, and the effects stays. That is why I'm for OSDT which tests year round, not just 30 days till the day of the fight. Now the negative effects of regular peds use is another matter altogether.

On the other hand I think the impact of peds in boxing is overrated. Why? Because boxing has weight divisions. Except for heavyweights you cannot bulk up over the weight limit. How about blood doping, that would work tremendously for the fighter but can easily be caught with a post fight test. Additionally, among others boxing also needs skills, intelligence, natural ability, and heart to win. Peds cannot give you that. You can make a case that it definitely makes a difference, but by how much?

 

Peds can give the ability to train harder, longer, and make you faster and stronger.

They help a lot, but it's not going to teach someone how to jab, or a certain type of defense.


Just like the baseball players that were crushing home runs. It didn't help them swing but it made them able to hit the ball more and with more power and precision.

 

how much do peds really help if you are cycling on/off between fights?

 

little children need to wake up, PEDs are apart of boxing just like jump ropes are, its not anything new.

 

well obviously depends what you're taking and what your goals are but i've done some research on olympic lifters and also conte said alot of athletes take their PED's off training season and then when its time to come back it is out of their system and they return bigger/stronger/faster than ever.

USADA/WADA testing could not catch marion jones because she knew to be off it when it happened but in 2006 she had to do a random urine test when she wasn't in training and they discovered EPO in her system.

 

does anyone think khan getting rid of his conditioning coach ariza who he has been with for years and replacing him with roachs advised conditioning coach is anything sinister??